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Mutant Palm Tree


Ventura

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I spotted this palm tree outside the West Marine Store in Oxnard.  A little sucker tree is growing out of EVERY leaf base.  It looks like a Butia cross.  Anyone ever see something like this?

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That is incredible suckering!  But it is a Phoenix hybrid with, I'd guess, dactylifera and canariensis.

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Jon Sunder

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

That is incredible suckering!  But it is a Phoenix hybrid with, I'd guess, dactylifera and canariensis.

That thing is unbelievable.  Yeah, I would suspect a hybrid as well.  I have never seen Phoenix canariensis sucker like that.  The fronds look more canariensis-like though, and that trunk is so freaking think.  I wonder what the drupes look like.  Here are some shots of local Phoenix dactylifera (at least, I think they are Phoenix dactylifera) suckering that I took the other day.  I suspect (again, only a suspicion) that suckering like that may be a result or after-effect of some trauma? These suckering Phoenix dactylifera below are in recovery mode after experiencing a brutal cold snap last year (one that outright killed most of the Phoenix dactylifera around here).  I am sure that Phoenix sps. pictured did not experience anything like that, but possibly some other trauma?

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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3 hours ago, Ventura said:

I spotted this palm tree outside the West Marine Store in Oxnard.  A little sucker tree is growing out of EVERY leaf base.  It looks like a Butia cross.  Anyone ever see something like this?

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I have seen one such plant here in central Phoenix in the oldest part of town.  I don't have an image, and the plant here is quite blue for dactylifera and is closer to sylvestris.  Your plant takes the cake, hands down.

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Just now, Ventura said:

if they quit pruning it i imagine those would be branches.  each branch would then sucker as well.

A unique bushy phenomenon. I wonder if it would get so massive it would collapse under it's own weight if allowed to grow as it wants to.

Ryan

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South Florida

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41 minutes ago, Palmarum said:

A unique bushy phenomenon. I wonder if it would get so massive it would collapse under it's own weight if allowed to grow as it wants to.

Ryan

I don't think it would get enough nutrients. I think it would look like a small tree. In my neighborhood there is a CDIP that looks like this.

Lucas

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4 hours ago, Little Tex said:

I don't think it would get enough nutrients. I think it would look like a small tree. In my neighborhood there is a CDIP that looks like this.

pictures of your cidp? 

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Very interesting!  Do you think you could root any of the suckers on that palm?  Seeing how they have been chopped back, I think it would be OK to swipe some.

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Andrei W. Konradi, Burlingame, California.  Vicarious appreciator of palms in other people's gardens and in habitat

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9 hours ago, GoatLockerGuns said:

That thing is unbelievable.  Yeah, I would suspect a hybrid as well.  I have never seen Phoenix canariensis sucker like that.  The fronds look more canariensis-like though, and that trunk is so freaking think.  I wonder what the drupes look like.  Here are some shots of local Phoenix dactylifera (at least, I think they are Phoenix dactylifera) suckering that I took the other day.  I suspect (again, only a suspicion) that suckering like that may be a result or after-effect of some trauma? These suckering Phoenix dactylifera below are in recovery mode after experiencing a brutal cold snap last year (one that outright killed most of the Phoenix dactylifera around here).  I am sure that Phoenix sps. pictured did not experience anything like that, but possibly some other trauma?

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This looks to have some reclinata in it ? 

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This is why you should never have kids with your cousins. :lol:

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3 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

This is why you should never have kids with your cousins. :lol:

No? Guess I'll get working on Plan B.

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9 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

This looks to have some reclinata in it ? 

Yeah, I was thinking that might be a possibility as well.

Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

image.png.2a6e16e02a0a8bfb8a478ab737de4bb1.png

(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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