9b+ Central Florida new Planting

[Reeverse]

Stoked to get this big guy in the ground! We’re in a super warm area near the coast under high oak canopy. 

[Johnny Palmseed]

That’s a nice looking example. Have you had it long?

[CodyORB]

Stunning Satakentia!

[KDubU]

Nice! 

[Looking Glass]

That’s a great head start!   Love that deep green crown shaft.  I’ve got three 4 footers in the ground, and they are slow pokes so far.  Looking forward to them putting on some size. 

[Johnny Palmseed]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:51 PM, CodyORB said:

Stunning Satakentia!

It’s tagged as a Kentiopsis Oliviformis.

[CodyORB]

49 minutes ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

It’s tagged as a Kentiopsis Oliviformis.

Whoops, that is a nice purple crownshaft then!

[Jim in Los Altos]

On 3/19/2022 at 1:00 PM, Reeverse said:

Stoked to get this big guy in the ground! We’re in a super warm area near the coast under high oak canopy. 

Gorgeous! They are now Chambeyronia oliviformis in case you hadn’t heard yet.

[Reeverse]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:35 PM, Johnny Palmseed said:

That’s a nice looking example. Have you had it long?

No I purchased it a few months ago but hadn’t had the time to get the hole dug. Landscaping never slowed down for us like it usually does. 

[Reeverse]

On 3/20/2022 at 8:30 PM, Jim in Los Altos said:

Gorgeous! They are now Chambeyronia oliviformis in case you hadn’t heard yet.

Thanks!! Yes I have a hard time trying to train my brain to rename them. Can definitely see why they put them in the Chamberyonia family when they’re in close proximity. 

[sonoranfans]

These palms are frost tender.  My (3) 22-25'+ Oliviformis took a little bit of leaf tip burn on upper leaves in our recent 34F plus frost.   They also burned in 2018 at 30F but that was a total crown burn, this time was just tips of upper leaves that burned. They have no overhead canopy and seemed a bit more leaf tender than the archontophoenix alexandre (triple) which didnt get visible burn.   I do note that I had a small one in 2010 @ 28F plus frost that the spear survived intact while nearby royals and foxtails were killd outright.  My tendency of planting archies densely may be the reason they had no burn, I bunch them more than the Ollie's since the ollies have longer, more rigid leaves and leaflets.  I was pretty surprised that I had frost burn at 20-27'+ height, very strange.   Most lower leaves were not burned.  I had that same pattern with a satakentia (under open sky) with 3' trunk, upper leaf tips(~2') burned.  Spears were not impacted this year in any of my palms.  I have (4) ollies and the smallest one was not burned at all, but it was in a more bunched area with a taller royal, the alex triple, and a Beccariophoenix Alfredii nearby.  The royals whose crowns reach 10'+ higher than the largest ollies were not burned so I expect no frost was deposited at that height since I know royals are also frost tender.

[Reeverse]

Thanks for the info. I had this palm in the same spot it’s planted in during our cold event. We hit 32 around 7:00 am. Heavy frost just outside the canopy but none under of course. It didn’t have any burn. I have a bunch of royals that did fine as well. Even a Myolensis under canopy had zero damage. So pretty confident in my spot. We’re about a mile from the coast and get a lot of East wind influence in the winter that makes us 10-15 degrees warmer than a coupes miles west. Its crazy. I know I’m pushing it with this one but time will tell I’m sure. 

[Fishinsteeg234]

@Reeverse how did your C. Oliviformis make out after this last cold event? 

[Merlyn]

Mine is a lot smaller, but my KO (now CO) was completely defoliated at 24.4F with frost.  It had a little bit of canopy from a tall bamboo next to it, so maybe 50% frost protection.  I had really given up on it, despite doses of hydrogen peroxide + Daconil it just sat there all summer.  I finally repotted it in the middle of September and it was just barely growing a new spear.  That one opened at about 4' long, and it started pushing a second one.  I have the pot in the front yard "tropical bed" about 6' from the garage.  The bigger leaf was torched at about 28F with no frost but around 10-15 total hours under freezing.  The second smaller spear is partially open and about 50% burnt.  In my area I think these would only survive long-term under canopy.

[Jim in Los Altos]

7 hours ago, Merlyn said:

Mine is a lot smaller, but my KO (now CO) was completely defoliated at 24.4F with frost.  It had a little bit of canopy from a tall bamboo next to it, so maybe 50% frost protection.  I had really given up on it, despite doses of hydrogen peroxide + Daconil it just sat there all summer.  I finally repotted it in the middle of September and it was just barely growing a new spear.  That one opened at about 4' long, and it started pushing a second one.  I have the pot in the front yard "tropical bed" about 6' from the garage.  The bigger leaf was torched at about 28F with no frost but around 10-15 total hours under freezing.  The second smaller spear is partially open and about 50% burnt.  In my area I think these would only survive long-term under canopy.

As you likely know, ones in pots are considerably less cold hardy the ones ground planted since the soil in a pot is much more subject to temperature extremes.