Gettin’ the Ring

[The Gerg]

Perhaps this post can be a place where excited palm enthusiasts can post pictures of their palms that have just gotten its first ring of trunk. 
A real K.O. Below my Kentiopsis oliviformis just got its first ring of trunk. The things that excite us…….

Please post yours.

 

[James B]

Nice! my KO is probably a year behind yours. So I have to exercise patience. 

[Billeb]

Love Kentiopsis Oliviformis. One of the prettiest shaped palms out there. Mine is still years from getting a ring or two. 
 

I just peeled off a boot from my largest Chambeyronia and it looks to be a line there! It’s about to flame any day. 1G Hookeri trying to catch up in the foreground. 

-dale

 

 

[palmfriend]

Hi,

posted recently for another reason but I have got one, too.

 

Clinostigma samoense

It is not really looking like a ring but I would say the reason to be excited is the same. 

 

Lars

[aztropic]

Pseudophoenix sargentii.

 

aztropic

Mesa, Arizona

[Darold Petty]

This is the Ring for me, guys   

  (Ha-Ha,   I will put up two images tomorrow !)

http://www.the-wagnerian.com/

 

[Billeb]

2 hours ago, aztropic said:

Pseudophoenix sargentii

Wow…Solid first ring!! Those trees only start looking better from there 

 

-dale

[The Gerg]

49 minutes ago, Billy said:

I remember hearing that taxonomists recently changed it to Chambeyronia Oliviformis...is this true? I can see the similarities. Interesting. Beautiful palms nonetheless!

Yes true, but it’s going to take me awhile to adopt the new name.

[Darold Petty]

Here are two we all can appreciate, Hedyscepe and Dypsis ambositrae.

[Billeb]

1 hour ago, Darold Petty said:

Here are two we all can appreciate, Hedyscepe and Dypsis ambositrae.

I can’t wait till my Ambositrae and one (or both ) of my Hedycepe are this size.  Better growth rate out if my Ambositrae actually. 
 

-dale

[Darold Petty]

This D. ambo is 8 years in the ground from a small 1-gallon.   My cold, foggy microclimate does not support many Dypsis species, but this palm inspired me to add one to my own garden.

[John hovancsek]

Not the first ring but first flower. L. Rupicola

[Brad52]

[palmfriend]

8 hours ago, Brad52 said:

This outstanding one fits the bill twice: 

- first ring AND 

- spectacular color!!!

 

Thank you for posting - 

Lars

[Reeverse]

My largest Tri-Bear is starting To trunk. 

[The Gerg]

I remembered noticing what could be a ring on my Burretiokentia hapala awhile back so I went to inspect a little closer this afternoon.

From the front side there is a ring. Around the backside the rings seem to be more exposed.

A leaf sheath was basically falling off so I helped it a smidge. Found this little flower sheath as well. Of course it will be empty I’m sure.

 

[Tracy]

I found this little guy at the first ring stage.  It was acquired as Dypsis "baby red stem", along with another at a palm society meeting, but the other one looks very different and has remained solitary.  Size and leaf structure are very reminiscent of something in the Dypsis onilahensis family, but the trunk is different more speckles and less of the white powder.

1 hour ago, The Gerg said:

A leaf sheath was basically falling off so I helped it a smidge. Found this little flower sheath as well. Of course it will be empty I’m sure.

Burretiokentia hapala pushes out flower spathes like yours very young.  You might be surprised.  It wouldn't surprise me if you find another flower spathe on one of the next 2 to 3 leaf bases as well.  There is a B hapala flower spathe photo bombing in one of my pics below too.  Natty dreads are comin' your way.

[JohnAndSancho]

C. Cataractarum

Legit don't know if these are suckers or multiple plants, but this is my indoor unit. Started as a 3' $30 big box plant and now 1 1/2 years later it's almost 6' tall and throws fronds like I change socks. It used to live in a corner under a grow light and I have to move it further out on a weekly basis now. I thought these were supposed to be slow  it's also trying to push a flower spathe on the other side. 

[James B]

5 hours ago, The Gerg said:

I remembered noticing what could be a ring on my Burretiokentia hapala awhile back so I went to inspect a little closer this afternoon.

From the front side there is a ring. Around the backside the rings seem to be more exposed.

A leaf sheath was basically falling off so I helped it a smidge. Found this little flower sheath as well. Of course it will be empty I’m sure.

 

Hey Greg, there appears to be what looks like some pink rot on the leaf base that is starting to split. Maybe blast it with some liquid copper fungicide to keep it safe. 

[The Gerg]

5 minutes ago, James B said:

Hey Greg, there appears to be what looks like some pink rot on the leaf base that is starting to split. Maybe blast it with some liquid copper fungicide to keep it safe. 

Yes, I did notice that myself. From time to time I do get a superficial amount of pink “rot” on palms (not yet actually rotting anything) where it can be very easily wiped away. Of course, like most of us I have also lost palms to a lethal amount of pink rot. I will keep an eye out.

Thanks for the suggestion. I may try that.

 

[msporty]

These are from last summer, but still less than 1 year ago…

 

KO:

Teddy bear:

[Billeb]

6 hours ago, msporty said:

These are from last summer, but still less than 1 year ago…

 

KO:

Teddy bear:

Looks awesome Mike! I don’t even remember seeing your Teddy Bear when I was there!!?!? You’ve got way too much cool stuff. 
 

-dale

[JohnAndSancho]

Boop 

[DoomsDave]

Sounds like a Billy Joel song: “I’m getting one ring!”

[Tracy]

Ok... not the first ring visible on this Hedyscepe canterburyana, but I missed the first ring.  Some loose leaf bases came right off when I was visiting my Carlsbad rental to reveal that this puppy has finally stopped tillering and started moving up.  Ironically, when I planted the adjacent Cycas thouarsiii, the Hedyscepe was giving it shade and now the roles are reversed.  Perhaps that says something about the speed I have experienced with this palm.  First ring(s) visible for me that weren't tillering rings mostly below the soil line.

[DoomsDave]

On 5/30/2022 at 6:26 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

C. Cataractarum

Legit don't know if these are suckers or multiple plants, but this is my indoor unit. Started as a 3' $30 big box plant and now 1 1/2 years later it's almost 6' tall and throws fronds like I change socks. It used to live in a corner under a grow light and I have to move it further out on a weekly basis now. I thought these were supposed to be slow  it's also trying to push a flower spathe on the other side. 

They ain’t slow, hell no.

[The Gerg]

12 hours ago, Tracy said:

Ok... not the first ring visible on this Hedyscepe canterburyana, but I missed the first ring.  Some loose leaf bases came right off when I was visiting my Carlsbad rental to reveal that this puppy has finally stopped tillering and started moving up.  Ironically, when I planted the adjacent Cycas thouarsiii, the Hedyscepe was giving it shade and now the roles are reversed.  Perhaps that says something about the speed I have experienced with this palm.  First ring(s) visible for me that weren't tillering rings mostly below the soil line.

Nice Tracy. I just happen to have a small Hedyscepe canterburyana right next to a Cycad thousarii as well. Although both are a few years behind yours I would guess.

They say great minds think alike, apparently we do too. Haha!

On another note, this made me go check my other H. canterburyana in my front yard. It is very similar to my B. hapala that I posted in this thread. From the front it is about a leaf sheath away from showing a ring, but if I sneak around to the backside there’s a little more action.

Admittedly I didn’t get this one planted quite deep enough.

[Tracy]

Since Sabal's like to retain their leaf bases, it has been a long wait for this Sabal mauritiiformis to form a "ring" but I think this qualifies.  This had a large heel when it was small, but its size is relatively diminutive now (visible in first photo).  I did have one subterranean base come off to create this first ring but I think it has remained like this for a couple of years.  I suspect it could still be a long time before the split boot comes off this one.

[Billeb]

54 minutes ago, The Gerg said:

 

 

I love Hedycepe. They have such a good look and structure. I’ve got two small guys and can’t wait till they get bigger. Already killed one unfortunately. 
 

-dale

[DoomsDave]

22 hours ago, Billeb said:

I love Hedycepe. They have such a good look and structure. I’ve got two small guys and can’t wait till they get bigger. Already killed one unfortunately. 
 

-dale

Keep trying! They’re so worth it, especially where you are!

[D. Morrowii]

Technically I think its the second ring but here it is anyway. Normanbya normabyi 

[Hilo Jason]

Cyphophoenix Elegans first ring

 

entire plant with Rocky for scale 

[The Gerg]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:20 AM, Hilo Jason said:

Cyphophoenix Elegans first ring

 

entire plant with Rocky for scale 

Looks great. I have one of these in the ground. Can’t wait until it starts trunking.

[The Gerg]

I think my Bentinckia condepanna is technically ready to get in the ring. Technically I look at these as little baby rings as it’s not really fattened up yet. (Maybe 2 1/2” diameter) But still….

 

[The Gerg]

Update from original post. Just 2 1/2 weeks later (based on dates pics were taken) the K.O.  made it to round two and looking at round three in about another two weeks I would say. Starting to really move.

 

The B. hapala also dropped a couple more leaf sheaths in about a three week period.

[Dusty CBAD]

@The Gerg great looking oliviformis! And thanks for the full palm pic.
 

Here’s the mandatory how old and what size was it planted question?

I have a large 5g in the ground that I’m impatiently looking forward to getting trunk someday.

[JohnAndSancho]

1 hour ago, The Gerg said:

Update from original post. Just 2 1/2 weeks later (based on dates pics were taken) the K.O.  made it to round two and looking at round three in about another two weeks I would say. Starting to really move.

 

The B. hapala also dropped a couple more leaf sheaths in about a three week period.

So dumb newbie question, but I'm guessing palms don't add rings on an annual basis like most trees?

[Darold Petty]

John, palms are monocots, and have no cambium,  Each ring is the scar of the leafbase attachment to the trunk.  So each ring is the mark of one frond.

Eudicots have cambium, and the ring is each years annual growth.  Dendrochronology is the study of these annual rings,  whereas palms have a cross section of the trunk with no rings.

  Remember, there are no 'dumb' questions, and only lack of curiosity is dumb!  

Here is an image of the palm trunk cross section,  (although this one is a fossil)

[The Gerg]

3 hours ago, Dusty CBAD said:

@The Gerg great looking oliviformis! And thanks for the full palm pic.
 

Here’s the mandatory how old and what size was it planted question?

I have a large 5g in the ground that I’m impatiently looking forward to getting trunk someday.

I bought it maybe as a 5 gallon in about 2015. (I’m somewhat guessing). It stayed in a pot for quite awhile. Eventually I planted it in one location for about a year then moved it to this location. The pic below is from July 2018. So basically four years older than the pic I just posted today. 
I just added another 5 gallon K.O. on the other side of the walkway. 

[Aaron in Fountain Valley]

Archontophoenix purpurea