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Aloidendron species, dichotomum or ramosissimum?


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We were out for a walk around San Elijo Lagoon this morning and decided to extend the walk into the adjacent neighborhood in Solana Beach.  I have seen the Aloidendron pictured below but thought I would solicit opinions on the correct species.  The leaves seem somewhat small for Aloidendron dichotomum, but more pointed and less rounded leaf tips than I expect from Aloidendron ramosissimum.  Sometimes I wonder if there are intermediate specimens which are hybrids of the two.

A neighbor was out in his yard a couple of houses down who I stopped to chat with because he had some nice plantings.   I asked him if he knew which species his neighbor had, but he didn't. Perhaps I will meet the owner on a future walk and get the back story on how long he has had it in the ground and what size it was when planted.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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2 hours ago, Tracy said:

We were out for a walk around San Elijo Lagoon this morning and decided to extend the walk into the adjacent neighborhood in Solana Beach.  I have seen the Aloidendron pictured below but thought I would solicit opinions on the correct species.  The leaves seem somewhat small for Aloidendron dichotomum, but more pointed and less rounded leaf tips than I expect from Aloidendron ramosissimum.  Sometimes I wonder if there are intermediate specimens which are hybrids of the two.

A neighbor was out in his yard a couple of houses down who I stopped to chat with because he had some nice plantings.   I asked him if he knew which species his neighbor had, but he didn't. Perhaps I will meet the owner on a future walk and get the back story on how long he has had it in the ground and what size it was when planted.

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Definitely A. dichotomum ..or A. dicho. mixed w/ another big Aloidendron sp...   No A. ram.  specimen would come close to that height.

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19 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Definitely A. dichotomum ..or A. dicho. mixed w/ another big Aloidendron sp...   No A. ram.  specimen would come close to that height.

Thank you for the input Nathan.  I am curious to find out how long it takes for them to gain this size and what size this one was when planted.  It is a spectacular specimen.  I was also encouraged to see it growing close to the coast like this.  It is probably another 500 to 700 meters further inland than my garden and definitely at a higher elevation, but still heavily influenced by the marine layer conditions.  I have some hope for mine surviving.  While nowhere near as fast as my Aloe Hercules (thank goodness), mine seem to grow year round for me here.  I won't be disappointed if it takes a long time for this one to gain significant girth as I have a number of equally prized plants in it's neighborhood.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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33 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Thank you for the input Nathan.  I am curious to find out how long it takes for them to gain this size and what size this one was when planted.  It is a spectacular specimen.  I was also encouraged to see it growing close to the coast like this.  It is probably another 500 to 700 meters further inland than my garden and definitely at a higher elevation, but still heavily influenced by the marine layer conditions.  I have some hope for mine surviving.  While nowhere near as fast as my Aloe Hercules (thank goodness), mine seem to grow year round for me here.  I won't be disappointed if it takes a long time for this one to gain significant girth as I have a number of equally prized plants in it's neighborhood.

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Thinking ..as long as they're happy, they can grow at a " decent " clip, though definitely not as fast as Hercules or barbarae can..  Know that younger plants are ok w/ some summer water, while bigger specimens want less of it- That said,  as demonstrated via specimens here, big specimens seem to do fine w/ the occasional soaking in the summer,  as long as the soil they're in drains well.  

If your neighbors is doing well, yours should be fine.. If you speak w/ them, also curious how long it has been grown in that person's yard/ what size they started with.

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