Looking for a Jubea and T. Princeps in the PNW. Any advice on where to go for quality and price?

[Moe Exotic]

Hey Guys,

New to this forum and didn’t find a thread on this in my searches (I’m sure its here I just can’t find it). I’m in Kingston, Wa and am hoping for some leads. I’ve put in all sorts of edible and ornamental trees and shrubs with a few palms as the most recent addition. I just have 1 waggy and 5 fortunei so far. I can’t find many places in WA that carry a selection of hardy palms. 
 

I would like to add a larger jubea. I can’t afford  2k tree but also don’t really want to start from strap leaves. Palms Northwest is the only place I’ve visited in person since I started planting. They only had one and it took a beating over the winter. It’s looking like a trip to Oregon may be in the cards. Rain tree tropical, Oregon palms, and palmscapes look like they have jubeas. I’d really appreciate any tips on where to go for best quality and price. Im sure there are some nurseries out there I’m not finding. 
 

I would eventually like to add more variety as I can afford it. Also currently looking for a princeps rn and coming up empty so far. 
 

Thanks for all help

 

MOE
 

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Moe Exotic

[Moe Exotic]

Sorry for the spelling. Screwed up the edit and now it won’t let me. 
 

Thanks to anyone who still opened the thread despite Jubaea being misspelled. lol

[Chester B]

Hi Moe, 

I think you’ve pretty much nailed it as to where to get a Jubaea. I would call ahead first for availability and pricing and think either Palmscape or Oregon Palm Nursery would be my preference. Many of the palms at Raintree have been left in their pots too long and not upsized so they seem to be more sensitive to winter as they are getting established the first couple of years. The two mentioned are similar in pricing but it helps to check. 
 

As far as Princeps, good luck finding one around here, your best option is mail order. Sometimes they come up for sale on Palmtalk and usually at a good discount compared to retail. 
 

I think @Josh-O has had princeps for sale before so maybe still has some stock. 

[Moe Exotic]

Thanks Chester! That’s exactly what I was looking for. I heard one green world has some palms too. I know it’s not their thing but does quality and price of what they do have compare with the others that specialize in palms?

[Chester B]

12 minutes ago, Moe Exotic said:

Thanks Chester! That’s exactly what I was looking for. I heard one green world has some palms too. I know it’s not their thing but does quality and price of what they do have compare with the others that specialize in palms?

Hi Moe they did get some really nice palms in this year for the first time. They did have at least two big Jubaea in boxes for $850. I haven’t been back since so not sure what’s still around and if they got any more in. It’s still worth visiting they have some pretty nice plants. 

[Moe Exotic]

I’ll definitely drop by when I go down. 850 is a lot for me but with such a slow grower I’m looking for bang for the buck. If an extra $400 gets me another 10 years of growth I can try to convince myself it’s worth it. 
 

thanks again. 

[Chester B]

Palmscape at times has had a variety of sizes but I haven’t been there in some time. I think most Butias around here come in the $350 and up sizes  but Raintree has some smaller ones at $100 but not in the best health. You can ask @Jesse PNW about that. 
 

I’ve been growing some blue ones from seed obtained on this forum, but oh man they are slow. 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Chester B

[BeyondTheGarden]

It sounds like you're all over it.  

Palms Northwest I think doesn't have much competition in the area and their palms aren't cheap.  But Jubaeas go for a premium, anywhere up here, regardless.    

Dave Alvarez is in the greater Seattle area and runs a palm business, he has a youtube channel and is on FB but I don't think he's on here.  @matthedlund is in Seattle and also is great at sourcing virtually anything, he runs a place called Wanderlust nursery.  

There's also a guy named Bryan Labounty who is establishing a palm business and I know he's got a bunch of Jubaea.  He's got a youtube channel and someone on here has purchased several palms from him.  @NWpalms@206 maybe?  

I had a small $100 Jubaea from Raintree like ChesterB was saying.  I like Raintree and I don't want to badmouth them, but a lot of their inventory has been in pots for too long and they're not in the best of health.  I ended up losing the Jubaea this winter.  However I am hoping to get back down there later this summer and purchase some more of their palms.  

I like your neck of the woods, one of my retirement dreams is to get some waterfront property on the peninsula.  You've got Far Reaches Farm just down the road from you, they have all kinds of incredible plants.  And then there's Windclif in Indianola run by Dan Hinkley.  We've got some great plant resources up here. 

[Chester B]

@Jesse PNW The Sabal uresana I got last year which wasn’t in the best shape declined in the last month. No spear pull yet but it’s pretty crispy looking. My smaller one that has been in the ground longer laughed at winter and has decided to put out proper fan shaped fronds  

 

[NWpalms@206]

20 hours ago, Jesse PNW said:

There's also a guy named Bryan Labounty who is establishing a palm business and I know he's got a bunch of Jubaea.  He's got a youtube channel and someone on here has purchased several palms from him.  @NWpalms@206 maybe?  

 

Yes, Bryan has jubaeas of many sizes, although some are still being acclimated to the climate and not retail ready as he likes to say. But he also does have princeps in 20g and 7g, reasonable prices also, good guy really loves this stuff.  Another source for jubae and princeps would be Dave Alverez NWPalmscapes and Exotics, in shoreline. He has 7g princeps as well but possibly only large jubae that are pricey. I buy from both and have good experiences. Bryan is (425)999-5768, and you can find Dave on facebook, NWPalmscapes and Exotics, he responds quickly to FB messenger. If you have trouble reaching him ill ask if i can share his cell number. good luck though two of my favorite palms!

[Moe Exotic]

Many thanks guys for all the info! This forum has been a great find. I’ll have to call around once I get a little time away from work. Stoked to hear there is a little more going on up here than it seemed at first. 
 

I love what heronswood and windcliff are doing majority of the inedible plants I put in came from them. Unfortunately they don’t do palms even though they have some beauties. 

[Fallen Munk]

Dave Alvarez for the princeps, Raintree for the Jubaea.  Like others have mentioned, Raintree Jubaea are all potbound with very little soil left in the pots, so the roots are all air hardened.  I got a 15 gallon from them a few years back and the pot was so light that the wind was blowing around the lot breaking up all the fronds.  I got a deal on it because it looked totally ratty.  Doing well now after it grew out, but it takes a long time.

[Fallen Munk]

On 7/4/2022 at 7:19 AM, Moe Exotic said:

Also currently looking for a princeps rn and coming up empty so far.

You might consider princeps hybrids as well.  Pure princeps is a slow grower.  I have a princeps x fortunei that has been a rocket.  Princeps x waggy is also nice.

[NWpalms@206]

On 7/6/2022 at 6:00 PM, Fallen Munk said:

You might consider princeps hybrids as well.  Pure princeps is a slow grower.  I have a princeps x fortunei that has been a rocket.  Princeps x waggy is also nice.

Or princeps x princeps! New (green) form x Stonegate (blue) form. Keeps up with the fastest of my hybrids and a nice look also.