Fruit tree id

[Tracy]

My wife and I were out walking the dogs this morning and passed by a garden i like to peek at and my wife commented on the tree below.  It is relatively small, maybe 10' tall.  There are numerous small small green fruit on it with some on the ground.   I picked up one from the ground so I could take a picture of it at home.  Dorian and or Dean are certain to have an answer for me.  Anyone else that can chime in on an id would be appreciated too .

Spoon for scale only.

[Silas_Sancona]

14 minutes ago, Tracy said:

My wife and I were out walking the dogs this morning and passed by a garden i like to peek at and my wife commented on the tree below.  It is relatively small, maybe 10' tall.  There are numerous small small green fruit on it with some on the ground.   I picked up one from the ground so I could take a picture of it at home.  Dorian and or Dean are certain to have an answer for me.  Anyone else that can chime in on an id would be appreciated too .

Spoon for scale only.

Thinking Persimmon.. Un-ripe ones.   Possibly " Fuyu "

[Tracy]

That was my initial thought but size of fruit threw us.  Leaf is different than the soft fruit persimmon tree too.  My parents had the soft fruit persimmon in Saratoga when they lived there decades ago.  I will cut into the fruit I brought home and should be able to recognize if you are correct.   Thanks Nathan.

[Tracy]

25 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Thinking Persimmon.. Un-ripe ones.   Possibly " Fuyu "

Yes.  Even has the bitter tongue twisting flavor that unripe persimmon fruit has.  Good call.

[Silas_Sancona]

23 minutes ago, Tracy said:

That was my initial thought but size of fruit threw us.  Leaf is different than the soft fruit persimmon tree too.  My parents had the soft fruit persimmon in Saratoga when they lived there decades ago.  I will cut into the fruit I brought home and should be able to recognize if you are correct.   Thanks Nathan.

  My grandparent's tree was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the pictures..

19 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Yes.  Even has the bitter tongue twisting flavor that unripe persimmon fruit has.  Good call.

Lol.. Tongue twisting, lip puckering.. throat tightening  ...Remember making the daring move of sampling unripe fruit a couple times well..  At least a few people got some laughs out of the experience(s)..

[Tracy]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

  My grandparent's tree was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the pictures..

Lol.. Tongue twisting, lip puckering.. throat tightening  ...Remember making the daring move of sampling unripe fruit a couple times well..  At least a few people got some laughs out of the experience(s)..

Astringent Hachiya soft persimmon was what they had.  Many people are reluctant to wait for that variety to ripen or don't like the texture so try to eat them too early.   My wife has frozen pulp from last year's crop from a friend.   The friend can't give enough away so we picked bags full the last few Autumns.   She uses the frozen pulp as a sweetener in baked desserts like banana bread. Yummy,  jshe just made some last week.

[Silas_Sancona]

2 hours ago, Tracy said:

Astringent Hachiya soft persimmon was what they had.  Many people are reluctant to wait for that variety to ripen or don't like the texture so try to eat them too early.   My wife has frozen pulp from last year's crop from a friend.   The friend can't give enough away so we picked bags full the last few Autumns.   She uses the frozen pulp as a sweetener in baked desserts like banana bread. Yummy,  jshe just made some last week.

One of these days, i want to attempt making a Glaze ( for stuff like BBQ'ed Chicken ...Might work for certain Fish as well ) using Persimmon and Mesquite Syrup / Honey..  Plus stuff like Peeper, Allspice, Basil.. and / or Real deal Mexican Oregano,  and Garlic added in.  My gut feeling is, if put together in just the right amounts, it could be fantastic.

[Peter]

Hachiya persimmon are so obviously way better than Fuyu; I have the conversation with my wife every year.  If you can be patient and wait for the hachiya to be completely soft, it will reward you with much more intense and complex flavors.  In the past I knew someone with a tree so would make persimmon jam every year-fantastic.  Unfortunately I no longer have access to that tree.  And eating an unripe persimmon is something you only do once...

[Tracy]

7 hours ago, Peter said:

eating an unripe persimmon is something you only do once...

[msporty]

That’s for sure a Fuyu persimmon— my favorite. 
 

I can eat one or two Hachiyas and I’m done for the season. Fuyu is like an apple — portable, not overly sweet, and crunchy. I can eat 30-40 in a season no problem. 
 

We had a chocolate persimmon and it was terrible. Not sure if there are better experiences for others.