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Unknown palm seedling of Doom

Chester B

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This seedling was germinated from a batch of @DoomsDave Chamaedorea radicalis seeds. 
 

The radicalis are larger and beefier than this palm, this one grows slowly. Note how the fronds are now splitting into a V shape. No armament on the petioles yet. 
 

Any ideas??

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OOPS!

Looks like some something got mixed in by mistake . . . 

Can't tell what it is yet.

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15 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

OOPS!

Looks like some something got mixed in by mistake . . . 

Can't tell what it is yet.

The bigger it gets the more interested I am to find out what the heck it is!

I’m invested after all this time growing it out. 

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38 minutes ago, Chester B said:

The bigger it gets the more interested I am to find out what the heck it is!

I’m invested after all this time growing it out. 

Me too!

Once it gets mature leaves it'll be easier to ID. Right now I have no clue. 

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57 minutes ago, Chris Chance said:

Almost looks like a mule seedling. Cool score anyway whatever it is.

I’d be pretty happy with that. I don’t  remember my mules doing the split frond though. 
 

I know it can handle some pretty cold temps, but I don’t think it’s ever seen below 35f. I kept it in a greenhouse over winter and last winter it’s been inside my house. 

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Looks like a Beccariophoenix spec. 
But i’m not sure.

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I’m thinking maybe a Livistona or Cocothrinax.

I have seeds of both, they're roughly the same size, shape and color, at least superficially, and it's possible one could have found its way in by mistake.

I'll be startled if that turns out to be a mule; they have much larger seeds, which would be hard to confuse with Cham radicalis. Also, I don't gather Washie seeds, and haven't for years. 

All that said, my curiosity is aflame. 

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Thorns or No Thorns? That will narrow it down.

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1 hour ago, NatureGirl said:

Thorns or No Thorns? That will narrow it down.

No thorns. 
 

2 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

I’m thinking maybe a Livistona or Cocothrinax.

I have seeds of both, they're roughly the same size, shape and color, at least superficially, and it's possible one could have found its way in by mistake.

I'll be startled if that turns out to be a mule; they have much larger seeds, which would be hard to confuse with Cham radicalis. Also, I don't gather Washie seeds, and haven't for years. 

All that said, my curiosity is aflame. 

No seed stuck out from the rest. The way the leaves are splitting and with the slight window effect of one of the fronds leads me to believe this could be a pinnate species. 
 

I’ll have to do an update in another six months. 

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15 hours ago, Chester B said:

The way the leaves are splitting and with the slight window effect of one of the fronds leads me to believe this could be a pinnate species. 

I get the same slight window effect on my B. alfredii seedling; you see it in coconut sprouts, too. I bet it's a pinnate, cocosoid palm of some sort (certainly not Beccariophoenix, though, as they have very much larger seeds).

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