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Flowering Sabal Birmingham ; seems late ?

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It seems like this Sabal Birmingham , my second largest ,  is flowering late , but the inflorescences seem of normal size and the bees are loving them right now  . I hope the seed matures . Does this seem late for them to flower ? By the way , my biggest Birmingham didn't put out any inflorescences this season ? 

Will  

 

It has 3 main inflorescences  :

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Overview :

 

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Biggest one without inflorescences  below ?

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Alex Zone 5 Rising Star

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Honestly I think all is well, tell you what!!

When those seeds do ripen up, you can send a few dozen to my dad's place in Louisiana :rolleyes:

Lovely Sabal totally jealous

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My Sabals bloom late in the summer due to our cooler springs. Just getting flowers this week. 

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30 minutes ago, Chester B said:

My Sabals bloom late in the summer due to our cooler springs. Just getting flowers this week. 

Weird.  I'm a zone and a half lower than you and all my Sabals, brazoria, louisiana, minor have seed that are already getting darker

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Very weird for your location I would say. Same as Allen here, flowered a long while ago and all are hanging green seeds at the moment. 

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7 hours ago, Alex Zone 5 said:

Honestly I think all is well, tell you what!!

When those seeds do ripen up, you can send a few dozen to my dad's place in Louisiana :rolleyes:

Lovely Sabal totally jealous

Thanks Alex .

I like Birminghams probably more than any other palm that I can grow . Amazing hardiness and very cool looking .

Will

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9 hours ago, Alex Zone 5 said:

Honestly I think all is well, tell you what!!

When those seeds do ripen up, you can send a few dozen to my dad's place in Louisiana :rolleyes:

Lovely Sabal totally jealous

I hope it matures before November . I'll keep the board posted .

Will

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6 hours ago, Will Simpson said:

I hope it matures before November . I'll keep the board posted .

Will

My Sabal Minors Flowered in early May along with Mexicana. Louisiana followed next, followed by Palmetto, and Brazoria last. mid June. I do not have a flowering Birmingham. 

Only ones that flowered at the same time were Minor and Mexicana... just saying if there was ever a chance for cross pollination, it would be among those two.

Seeing that the thought that Birmingham is a cross between Minor and Palmetto, it would not be possible here.

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I went to collect seed from a large Birmingham here in Raleigh last November. Almost every seed was still green. I went back in January and they’d all turned black. So I’ve thought of Birmingham seeds as seeds that ripen in winter 

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23 hours ago, knikfar said:

I went to collect seed from a large Birmingham here in Raleigh last November. Almost every seed was still green. I went back in January and they’d all turned black. So I’ve thought of Birmingham seeds as seeds that ripen in winter 

I will definitely learn something from how these future seeds mature .

Thanks ,

Will

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How old are these birminghams? I know they grow slowly and yours look substantial. I have four in my yard but they're very small, just putting out their first serrated fronds. I hope they actually start to look like palms within my lifetime. :)

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On 7/31/2022 at 12:12 AM, Collectorpalms said:

My Sabal Minors Flowered in early May along with Mexicana. Louisiana followed next, followed by Palmetto, and Brazoria last. mid June. I do not have a flowering Birmingham. 

Only ones that flowered at the same time were Minor and Mexicana... just saying if there was ever a chance for cross pollination, it would be among those two.

Seeing that the thought that Birmingham is a cross between Minor and Palmetto, it would not be possible here.

Brazoria?

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On 8/2/2022 at 11:12 AM, knikfar said:

How old are these birminghams? I know they grow slowly and yours look substantial. I have four in my yard but they're very small, just putting out their first serrated fronds. I hope they actually start to look like palms within my lifetime. :)

My 2 oldest Birminghams are  10 seasons  in the ground from 3 gallon pots .

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