Butia ID please

[Will]

A friend has those 3 Butia in his garden. Any idea which variety they are? I think one has yellow and one red flowers.

[Fusca]

4 hours ago, Will said:

A friend has those 3 Butia in his garden. Any idea which variety they are? I think one has yellow and one red flowers.

Sorry I can't help with the ID but here is a photo of Butia odorata in habitat in Uraguay showing yellow flowers on one tree and red on the other.  They are quite variable palms and even the ripe fruit color can vary from red to orange to yellow.  Perhaps the seed could help with the ID as Butia odorata and eriosphata seeds are round where yatay seeds are elongated.

 

[ZPalms]

6 hours ago, Will said:

A friend has those 3 Butia in his garden. Any idea which variety they are? I think one has yellow and one red flowers.

These look amazing, hope you get a id because I’m interested in what these are

[Dartolution]

Seed images would help greatly, but the twisty fronds seem to indicate odorata. 

[awkonradi]

4 hours ago, ZPalms said:

These look amazing, hope you get a id because I’m interested in what these are

I agree!

[Frond-friend42]

These fronds look less strongly recurved nearly straight. From palmpedia pics I see this more with odorata.

[Frond-friend42]

Up-close pic of a B. yatay I met yesterday.

[SeanK]

@Fusca- Thanks for the seed ID.

Are both capitata and odorata sold as jelly / pindo palms?

[Fusca]

On 8/10/2022 at 6:51 AM, SeanK said:

@Fusca- Thanks for the seed ID.

Are both capitata and odorata sold as jelly / pindo palms?

Yes.  Years ago all the cold hardy Butias from southern Brasil sold here in the US were lumped together and sold as 'capitata'.  The true 'capitata' species habitat is further north in the tropics and the cold hardy species were reclassified.  I recently saw a Butia odorata with a Lowe's tag which read 'Butia capitata'.  Apparently some growers still use the old name.  Apparently the true 'capitata' is hardly ever found in cultivation.