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Most common Dypsis, now?


Mandrew968

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Like Ray mentioned, in light of Dr. Bill Baker and colleagues' work, I am left with just one Dypsis species-three actually but that's ok( mirabilis and rivularis but both are struggling). Feel free to post a pic of your remaining Dypsis and what you think is now the most common Dypsis in cultivation. I am thinking Dypsis scottiana is in the running.

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Lutescens are always in the big box stores. No pic of mine cuz it's kinda crispy and needs repotting. 

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14 minutes ago, Billy said:

But now it's Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, so that changes things.....:P

That is totally my bad for not reading the Kew thread 😒

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15 minutes ago, Billy said:

Keeping us on our toes! Right as I was barely getting familiar with the names.....

I guess I'm just a palm casual 

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I've ended up with two of the "new" Dypsis types after the shuffle.  I have Forficifolia (which is impossible for me to spell correctly), and Rosea.  This is mostly because I hit the upper 20s almost every winter, and the new Dypsis are mostly understory...and I have none of that yet.  Rosea has so far been happy with full AM sun and shade after about 2PM, I planted this one in mid-July and it's already opening a new frond.  It's had a bit of sunburn acclimatizing, but it seems to be adapting well! 

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1 hour ago, Billy said:

But now it's Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, so that changes things.....:P

I sell both plants and seeds and now have to write and type Chrysalidocarpus over and over and over and over.... till I'm dead.  Why can't we call them Bob's lutescens or something simple? LOL

I do appreciate the effort that's going into being genetically correct and have spent most of my life explaining to regular folks why we use latin , but geeez it's getting tough in my old age to remember the correct spellings of the long ones.

Now I've gotta go add notations in my website and Ebay listings to start educating folks about the Latin name change. It's going to take a long time before average people recognize and use Chrysalidocarpus lutescens in searches online. Good thing I don't have to hawk them at shows yelling "Get your Chrysalidocarpus lutescens here folks!". ahahaha

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It's funny I was starting to get curious about dypsis but now everything is changed 😂

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I'd say decaryi. 

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14 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

I'd say decaryi. 

Dave, I don't think that's a Dypsis anymore. 

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Has anyone put together a list of all the Dypsis species and Chrysalidocarpus species yet? And Vonitra of course. 

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Jim, I think most are listed in the paper posted by Bill Baker., although not all.   As others have noted we seem to have gone back in time.. below is a palm name as listed in Palms Throughout the World by David Jones published around 1994.  

On Dypsis, I will go with Dypsis mirabilis as one of the more commonly planted.  I lost my last one about 5 years ago, due to a lack of canopy.  I should try it again now that I have some canopy in Leucadia.   Dypsis scottiana didn't do well here, too cool in winter for prolonged periods. 

39 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Has anyone put together a list of all the Dypsis species and Chrysalidocarpus species yet? And Vonitra of course. 

 

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When we talk about Johannesteijmannia species, we say Joey, an easy familiar-sounding name. I suggest that instead of saying Crysalidocarpus, we say Crissy, easy and sounds familiar and friendly.

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I reckon it will be Dypsis rosea. These are one of the easiest Dypsis and get a red new leaf to boot. Real pretty palm. I miss my one in Perth at my old house that was just about to flower. I made the mistake of driving past about a year after selling and they’d cut it down. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

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3 hours ago, Tyrone said:

I reckon it will be Dypsis rosea. These are one of the easiest Dypsis and get a red new leaf to boot. Real pretty palm. I miss my one in Perth at my old house that was just about to flower. I made the mistake of driving past about a year after selling and they’d cut it down. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

D rosea is now my only Dypsis planted in ground. Impressed with its hardiness although it copped a bit of a beating this winter after a couple of nights at -1.5C/29F. I’d say either D rosea or D pinnatifrons would now be the most common. 

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How to get up to speed? Decaryi is no longer dypsis? I would've thrown out all the others instead, before decaryi (many good reasons why I'm not in charge). Is it Crysalidocarpus decaryi?

And why the change?

 

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21 hours ago, mike in kurtistown said:

. I suggest that instead of saying Crysalidocarpus, we say Crissy, easy and sounds familiar and friendly.

This may end up being the case or maybe even just Crysal for short. No matter what it's gonna take some time to get use to it haha 

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11 hours ago, Frond-friend42 said:

How to get up to speed? Decaryi is no longer dypsis? I would've thrown out all the others instead, before decaryi (many good reasons why I'm not in charge). Is it Crysalidocarpus decaryi?

And why the change?

Here's the new research paper on this thread:

 

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On 8/27/2022 at 11:15 PM, Jim in Los Altos said:

Has anyone put together a list of all the Dypsis species and Chrysalidocarpus species yet? And Vonitra of course. 

There's going to be a detailed release of the information in Palms, but Bill Baker posted a thread and there is a free link. Click on that and figure 3 sums it up best.

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9 minutes ago, Mandrew968 said:

There's going to be a detailed release of the information in Palms, but Bill Baker posted a thread and there is a free link. Click on that and figure 3 sums it up best.

Thank you. I looked at it yesterday. All former Dypsis species in my yard are Chrysolidocarpus now so that makes it easy to identify except that “Dypsis” rolls off the tongue much easier than “Chrysalidocarpus!”

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