Striped Barbados Lily

[ZPalms]

I've had these stripped Barbados lily in the yard since we moved into this house, I can't remember who planted it or if it was here before, but I always see the leaves come up every spring and they always get hit with the mower, but never a bloom. If anyone else has one of these, what could possibly be going on with them? I already have it in my mind that I'm going to dig them up and probably put them in a pot because I think maybe the grass is overcrowding them and I also think they have multiple bulbs, if they even have bulbs in this spot, because it looks like multiple plants.

If I dig them up, what's the proper way to replant them? I've looked some up and some people leave half the bulb thing exposed, but I don't know if these are the same as what those people are showing.

 

[Silas_Sancona]

9 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I've had these stripped Barbados lily in the yard since we moved into this house, I can't remember who planted it or if it was here before, but I always see the leaves come up every spring and they always get hit with the mower, but never a bloom. If anyone else has one of these, what could possibly be going on with them? I already have it in my mind that I'm going to dig them up and probably put them in a pot because I think maybe the grass is overcrowding them and I also think they have multiple bulbs, if they even have bulbs in this spot, because it looks like multiple plants.

If I dig them up, what's the proper way to replant them? I've looked some up and some people leave half the bulb thing exposed, but I don't know if these are the same as what those people are showing.

 

Striped Barbados Lily = Hippeastrum sp. ( which includes "traditional" Amaryllis )

As to why you aren't seeing flowers? Highlighted sentences essentially answered that question, lol..  

Digging them up / Repotting?  Easy..  Just be sure you dig deep enough to get the bulbs + a good amount of roots. Regardless, they'll do fine in a pot, but, you'll likely have to wait a year or two for flowers since bulbs removed from where they'd been established can experience setback and take a year or two to readjust to where they've been moved. Slow release K 3x's a year and Blood Meal 2x's /yr will help them bulk up faster.

As far as positioning in the pot,  Some will keep the neck of the bulb just above the surface of the soil, some don't. I did with mine in the past. Still,  some would pull themselves below the surface after a year or two and it didn't seem to bother them.  Be sure the soil drains well. No heavy, Peat Moss type soil mix!

[ZPalms]

10 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Striped Barbados Lily = Hippeastrum sp. ( which includes "traditional" Amaryllis )

As to why you aren't seeing flowers? Highlighted sentences essentially answered that question, lol..  

Digging them up / Repotting?  Easy..  Just be sure you dig deep enough to get the bulbs + a good amount of roots. Regardless, they'll do fine in a pot, but, you'll likely have to wait a year or two for flowers since bulbs removed from where they'd been established can experience setback and take a year or two to readjust to where they've been moved. Slow release K 3x's a year and Blood Meal 2x's /yr will help them bulk up faster.

As far as positioning in the pot,  Some will keep the neck of the bulb just above the surface of the soil, some don't. I did with mine in the past. Still,  some would pull themselves below the surface after a year or two and it didn't seem to bother them.  Be sure the soil drains well. No heavy, Peat Moss type soil mix!

For a while I made sure they didn't get mowed for months but they really didn't put up anything and we have some people cutting our grass now so they just mow right over them but apperciate it! As soon as I get some soil I'll go ahead and pop them out the ground and get them into a pots and hopefully they recover and like there new space.

I try not to use peatmoss because how it gets hydrophobic if you don't water it for a while, Is it ok to use regular soils with perlite and bark added in?

[Silas_Sancona]

5 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

For a while I made sure they didn't get mowed for months but they really didn't put up anything and we have some people cutting our grass now so they just mow right over them but apperciate it! As soon as I get some soil I'll go ahead and pop them out the ground and get them into a pots and hopefully they recover and like there new space.

I try not to use peatmoss because how it gets hydrophobic if you don't water it for a while, Is it ok to use regular soils with perlite and bark added in?

Pumice in place of Perlite -if you have access to it, or a product called PermaTill which is supposedly sold back there. Provides pretty much the same benefits in soil mixes as Lava Rock and/ or Pumice if neither are easy to find for sale locally.  ...and some Turface MVP for the well draining part.   Some small bark mixed in would be ok too.. 

Some good composted soil, and Coco-Peat would be great for the " soil " part of the soil mix for these.. Coco peat also helps lessen the chance of the bulbs being infected by some types of Bacterial infections as well. ( Provides the same benefit when used in the soil mix for other plants as well. Also doesn't become hydrophobic / shrink as it dries like peat.  )

The one thing you do have to be aware of w/ Coco Peat, particularly the stuff sold as a compressed, dry block, ...You may have to do a soak / drain / soak w/  to reduce any leftover salt that may be contained in it before using it. When i use it,  i'll break off whatever amount i'll need from the block  in a 5gal bucket w/ holes drilled around the bottom, then soak it, breaking up the chunks as they soak up water, ...then let it drain ...repeating the process over the course of a day or two to be sure any possible leftover higher levels of salt are rinsed out. Some companies are good about doing this when they process it, before they sell the product. Other companies aren't.  Anyway..

If you're gonna grow them in a container long- term, 3gal would be the smallest pot i'd put them in.. wide, squat 7gal, if you can find one, would be better ...providing plenty of room for the bulbs to fill out fully/ bulk up w/ out being too cramped so you'll get lots of full sized flowers.

If you've ever seen the Hippeastrums the big box stores offer for indoor forcing around Thanksgiving and/or Christmas, then you know these can produce big, Onion-sized bulbs,  kind of like some Crinums can.  FYI, those same bulbs can also do well in pots ( ...or in the ground where the ground doesn't freeze ) outdoors, though they also may take a couple years to settle in / bulk back up before resuming flowering regularly.

[ZPalms]

18 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Pumice in place of Perlite -if you have access to it, or a product called PermaTill which is supposedly sold back there. Provides pretty much the same benefits in soil mixes as Lava Rock and/ or Pumice if neither are easy to find for sale locally.  ...and some Turface MVP for the well draining part.   Some small bark mixed in would be ok too.. 

Some good composted soil, and Coco-Peat would be great for the " soil " part of the soil mix for these.. Coco peat also helps lessen the chance of the bulbs being infected by some types of Bacterial infections as well. ( Provides the same benefit when used in the soil mix for other plants as well. Also doesn't become hydrophobic / shrink as it dries like peat.  )

The one thing you do have to be aware of w/ Coco Peat, particularly the stuff sold as a compressed, dry block, ...You may have to do a soak / drain / soak w/  to reduce any leftover salt that may be contained in it before using it. When i use it,  i'll break off whatever amount i'll need from the block  in a 5gal bucket w/ holes drilled around the bottom, then soak it, breaking up the chunks as they soak up water, ...then let it drain ...repeating the process over the course of a day or two to be sure any possible leftover higher levels of salt are rinsed out. Some companies are good about doing this when they process it, before they sell the product. Other companies aren't.  Anyway..

If you're gonna grow them in a container long- term, 3gal would be the smallest pot i'd put them in.. wide, squat 7gal, if you can find one, would be better ...providing plenty of room for the bulbs to fill out fully/ bulk up w/ out being too cramped so you'll get lots of full sized flowers.

If you've ever seen the Hippeastrums the big box stores offer for indoor forcing around Thanksgiving and/or Christmas, then you know these can produce big, Onion-sized bulbs,  kind of like some Crinums can.  FYI, those same bulbs can also do well in pots ( ...or in the ground where the ground doesn't freeze ) outdoors, though they also may take a couple years to settle in / bulk back up before resuming flowering regularly.

I don't think I have access to pumice or turface mvp anywhere, I can never find it physically in person anywhere, It's so hard to get access too. I will get coco coir thanks for the advice! I wouldn't have any clue to rinse it.

I would move them somewhere else in the yard but fall is around the corner and I don't know if it's a good idea to dig up the bulbs right before it gets cold 

[JohnAndSancho]

22 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I don't think I have access to pumice or turface mvp anywhere, I can never find it physically in person anywhere, It's so hard to get access too. I will get coco coir thanks for the advice! I wouldn't have any clue to rinse it.

I would move them somewhere else in the yard but fall is around the corner and I don't know if it's a good idea to dig up the bulbs right before it gets cold 

Would lava rock for bbq grilles work?

[ZPalms]

16 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Would lava rock for bbq grilles work?

I have no idea, aren't they too chunky?

Edited August 28, 2022 by ZPalms

[Silas_Sancona]

4 hours ago, ZPalms said:

I have no idea, aren't they too chunky?

Yep, Size of the Lava Rock for BBQ grills would need to be crushed to about 1/4th inch size, otherwise it is too big.

As far as Turface MVP, Contact your nearest Ewing Irrigation Supply store... ( Pretty sure they should have locations there )  They should have it in stock ( most of their locations across the country do )  Used most often for conditioning Baseball infields. Has only been in the last ..Decade or so.. people have been requesting it for Horticultural- related uses. 

[JohnAndSancho]

24 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Yep, Size of the Lava Rock for BBQ grills would need to be crushed to about 1/4th inch size, otherwise it is too big.

As far as Turface MVP, Contact your nearest Ewing Irrigation Supply store... ( Pretty sure they should have locations there )  They should have it in stock ( most of their locations across the country do )  Used most often for conditioning Baseball infields. Has only been in the last ..Decade or so.. people have been requesting it for Horticultural- related uses. 

Turface is good stuff. I've always thought a 50 pound bag was way too much for my small apartment jungle, so I stupidly paid twice as much for the same thing in a smaller bag, and bought Mondo Clay from Banzai Jack. 

[ZPalms]

34 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Yep, Size of the Lava Rock for BBQ grills would need to be crushed to about 1/4th inch size, otherwise it is too big.

As far as Turface MVP, Contact your nearest Ewing Irrigation Supply store... ( Pretty sure they should have locations there )  They should have it in stock ( most of their locations across the country do )  Used most often for conditioning Baseball infields. Has only been in the last ..Decade or so.. people have been requesting it for Horticultural- related uses. 

Is turface mvp called "Turface MVP Field Conditioner" I went on the website but I see multiple different things

[JohnAndSancho]

2 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

Is turface mvp called "Turface MVP Field Conditioner" I went on the website but I see multiple different things

Yah. That's it. It's designed for baseball fields but it's great for plants. 

[ZPalms]

1 minute ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Yah. That's it. It's designed for baseball fields but it's great for plants. 

17$ 😭

[JohnAndSancho]

Just now, ZPalms said:

17$ 😭

Buddy I paid twice that for a lot less lol. Like A LOT less. I get your situation but if you were to buy a 5g bucket to store it in it'll last. It's clay, it'll never decompose. It'll be there whenever you need it. And you'll have a crap ton. My plants with this stuff mixed in the soil are way happier than the ones without. 

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

Is turface mvp called "Turface MVP Field Conditioner" I went on the website but I see multiple different things

Should be a big Green bag that says " Turface " athletics" MVP.. It is used as a field conditioner.. but have to check my bag to see if it says that on it.  There are other " Grades?? " of Turface available, but MVP is the only product that is hard fireed / calcined Clay and won't break down over time.. The other products in their line will break down since they are not fired

 

1 minute ago, ZPalms said:

17$ 😭

Sounds expensive, but believe me, it goes a lonngggg way when you add in the other components of a soil mix you'll add to it..  50LB bag will last awhile... Unless you have dozens of 5+Gal plants to repot.  Been worth every penny of that first $17 investment.  Remember, you're not using it as the only thing you'll put your plants in.

For palms/ other tropical stuff Turface MVP will make up 40 -ish % of the soil mix..  50+% Turface MVP makes up a soil mix for Cacti and other specific desert stuff that wants extremely well draining soil.

[ZPalms]

9 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Buddy I paid twice that for a lot less lol. Like A LOT less. I get your situation but if you were to buy a 5g bucket to store it in it'll last. It's clay, it'll never decompose. It'll be there whenever you need it. And you'll have a crap ton. My plants with this stuff mixed in the soil are way happier than the ones without. 

 

7 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Should be a big Green bag that says " Turface " athletics" MVP.. It is used as a field conditioner.. but have to check my bag to see if it says that on it.  There are other " Grades?? " of Turface available, but MVP is the only product that is hard fireed / calcined Clay and won't break down over time.. The other products in their line will break down since they are not fired

 

Sounds expensive, but believe me, it goes a lonngggg way when you add in the other components of a soil mix you'll add to it..  50LB bag will last awhile... Unless you have dozens of 5+Gal plants to repot.  Been worth every penny of that first $17 investment.  Remember, you're not using it as the only thing you'll put your plants in.

For palms/ other tropical stuff Turface MVP will make up 40 -ish % of the soil mix..  50+% Turface MVP makes up a soil mix for Cacti and other specific desert stuff that wants extremely well draining soil.

I'm terrible at mixing soils, I always put more than I need of all things I add in my mixes but I just hate that I don't make that money back so I'll have to stick with something that's more accessible so I don't go broke broke 💀 I do want to get some eventually

[JohnAndSancho]

12 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

 

I'm terrible at mixing soils, I always put more than I need of all things I add in my mixes but I just hate that I don't make that money back so I'll have to stick with something that's more accessible so I don't go broke broke 💀 I do want to get some eventually

Like the homey @Silas_Sanconasaid, it'll last a long time. Plus it's not gonna rot. My suggestion is to get a couple buckets and use one to keep filled with pre-mixed soil and one for your amendments. I wish I had bought that $17 bag instead of this expensive 2 quart bougie bag of the same thing. 

[ZPalms]

2 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Like the homey @Silas_Sanconasaid, it'll last a long time. Plus it's not gonna rot. My suggestion is to get a couple buckets and use one to keep filled with pre-mixed soil and one for your amendments. I wish I had bought that $17 bag instead of this expensive 2 quart bougie bag of the same thing. 

If I get an extra bit of money then I'll probably get some but it's too steep for me

Edited August 29, 2022 by ZPalms