Tremenheere gardens

[Foxpalms]

Went to Tremenheere gardens today, the weather was very cloudy this morning but became slightly more clear later. Lots of nice palms and exotics here and it's located near Penzance Cornwall.  Here are some photos of the amazing plant selection there. It's located in a perfect microclimate, close to the Atlantic Ocean south facing and on a slope. I'd say its a zone 10a.

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My personal favourite 

[gurugu]

As amazing as Tresco. Any Rhopalostylis or Archontophoenix in the ground too? 

I guess it shares the same climate as Tresco, right? 

Thanks. 

[Foxpalms]

36 minutes ago, gurugu said:

As amazing as Tresco. Any Rhopalostylis or Archontophoenix in the ground too? 

I guess it shares the same climate as Tresco, right? 

Thanks. 

I didn't spot any archontophoenix cunninghamiana or Rhopalostylis even though they would do well there. Since it's on the mainland it's slightly colder than tresco being a zone 10a whilst tresco is a 10b. Other gardens other than tresco have nikaus and archontophoenix though.

[Jim in Los Altos]

I was going to ask if there are any crown shafted palms there since it’s zone 10 but from the chart below, I can see why likely there aren’t. That is one chilly zone 10!  Nice palm photos! 

[Foxpalms]

@Jim in Los AltosThey have some in other gardens in Cornwall I will be visiting later this week. The problem with a cool zone 10a is it really limits what you can grow just like a cold growing zone of course you won't find foxtails or royals ect but palms such as the cool tolerant chamedorea, archontophoenix and nikaus will be happy in that climate.

[PalmatierMeg]

Another beautiful garden in the UK. Thank you

[James B]

Some beautiful palms! I think this an example of the USDA climate zones being outdated and in some cases useless. The Heat Zone system I find to be much more useful overall.

[UK_Palms]

Here are some of my own photos that I took at Tremenheere, which was literally the day after you haha…

The Butia’s are off the scale good at Tremenheere. Things are getting crazy on the English mainland.

Parajubaea Torallyi doing great as well.

This is one of the best Brahea Edulis’s in the UK, where they are now far exceeding all previous expectations.

 

Brahea Armata doing good too, as expected.

 

Surprised to see Trithrinax Campestris doing so well out in the open and flowering too.

 

Livistona Chinensis or Beahea Edulis?

 

Phoenix Sylvestris, Dactylifera or Theophrasti

Phoenix Reclinata

Juania Australis x 2

Syagrus hybrid of some kind

I did spot a small, neglected Archontophoenix duo.

The bananas are massive

Edited September 11, 2022 by UK_Palms

[gurugu]

I like that line of Butia odoratas. Isn´t last picture of butias a Yatay?

If I´m not wrong, that is a Ph. Theophrastii. And a Livistona chinensis the other one (spines).

So Juanias, Archontophoenix and Rhopalostylis are popping up like mushrooms down there, right? A good idea to plant them in the shadow. They will last longer.

Are all bananas Basjoo? or are there any other varieties?

Last picture with St Michael at the background is perfect. Last night Michael Portillo´s tv programme here,  was on that area. Beautiful the inside of the church.

[UK_Palms]

4 hours ago, gurugu said:

I like that line of Butia odoratas. Isn´t last picture of butias a Yatay?

If I´m not wrong, that is a Ph. Theophrastii. And a Livistona chinensis the other one (spines).

So Juanias, Archontophoenix and Rhopalostylis are popping up like mushrooms down there, right? A good idea to plant them in the shadow. They will last longer.

Are all bananas Basjoo? or are there any other varieties?

Last picture with St Michael at the background is perfect. Last night Michael Portillo´s tv programme here,  was on that area. Beautiful the inside of the church.

Yeah it’s quite possible that is a Butia Yatay. If so, it still doesn’t compete with the huge Yatay at Lamorran Gardens. I think you are right that it is a Theophrasti too and the other palm is a Livistona Chinensis. Again there is a better Chinensis at Lamorran as well. 

Those are planted out in the open, but like you say it is best to plant the crownshafts under tree canopy in case of a bad freeze like 1963 or 1987. I mean 2010 was pretty bad too, but obviously all the bigger palms survived fine in Tresco, south coast, London etc. With the climate changing as rapidly as it is, I doubt it will ever get that cold again anyway. Time to start planting even more Archontophoenix, Juania and Rhopalostylis.

As for the bananas, Basjoo has yellow flowers so it can’t be that. Not sure what type has red flowers like the one shown above? I think there are several different species of banana present at Tremenheere. There are quite a few other things that I missed, or haven’t uploaded yet as well. Lots of different ferns from subtropical regions.

Also I visited St Michael’s mount last month and they have actually kitted it out with CIDP’s, Chamaerops. Trachy’s and other exotics too. It will take years for them to grow to size of many of the others I have shown on here however. It’s quite an exposed location there as well so they may look a bit windswept, although everything looks healthy. I only took a few pictures, but they have a lot more palms, aroids & succulents growing there. 

[Ryland]

Really enjoyed that.  The Butias in particular are very impressive - can't wait for mine to get like that, but I'll have to.

I think the Google result for the climate in Penzance wasn't very accurate, perhaps based on the 1981-2010 averages of another Cornish station.  Culdrose, not far from Penzance but likely a touch cooler (more exposed to the ocean and elevated), is consistently warmer than that based on the new 1991-2020 averages: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-climate-averages/gbukbmeyr.  Also it seems like a weather station was run in Penzance itself for a few years but is no longer maintained, showing all months with an average high above 10ºC: https://www.penzance.co.uk/weather/weathersumm.htm.

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On 9/17/2022 at 9:54 AM, Ryland said:

Really enjoyed that.  The Butias in particular are very impressive - can't wait for mine to get like that, but I'll have to.

I think the Google result for the climate in Penzance wasn't very accurate, perhaps based on the 1981-2010 averages of another Cornish station.  Culdrose, not far from Penzance but likely a touch cooler (more exposed to the ocean and elevated), is consistently warmer than that based on the new 1991-2020 averages: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-climate-averages/gbukbmeyr.  Also it seems like a weather station was run in Penzance itself for a few years but is no longer maintained, showing all months with an average high above 10ºC: https://www.penzance.co.uk/weather/weathersumm.htm.

I personally would trust those averages from that shut down weather station the most for Penzances current day climate.