Help ID two ginger-related plants

[miamicuse]

I bought two plants locally with no labels or tags.  I wonder if someone can help ID them.

(1) This one I believe is a Calathea.  Pin striped?  Wood fence is 6 feet tall for scale.

(2) The second one, is it an Alpinia?  The first shows the whole plant including flowers, the second one just the leaves.

[metalfan]

The first one is a calathea, looks like Ornata I think. The second is variegated Heliconia lady Di

[miamicuse]

50 minutes ago, metalfan said:

The first one is a calathea, looks like Ornata I think. The second is variegated Heliconia lady Di

Thank you.  I thought I attached more pictures of the first one but they didn't show up in my post.

[Merlyn]

The second one is easily a $50 pot or more, Heliconia "Lady Di" variegated, also known as "Candy Cane."  I tried that one here in the Orlando area and unfortunately forgot about it when I hit mid 20s.  It defoliated and then the rhizome rotted because I left it out in my nursery area getting regular overhead spray.  They prefer to be dry in the winter to avoid rot.

[miamicuse]

22 hours ago, Merlyn said:

The second one is easily a $50 pot or more, Heliconia "Lady Di" variegated, also known as "Candy Cane."  I tried that one here in the Orlando area and unfortunately forgot about it when I hit mid 20s.  It defoliated and then the rhizome rotted because I left it out in my nursery area getting regular overhead spray.  They prefer to be dry in the winter to avoid rot.

Good to know so I got a great deal at $40 for both even with no tags!

I will make sure the Heliconia is not planted where they may get wet feet.

[Merlyn]

8 minutes ago, miamicuse said:

Good to know so I got a great deal at $40 for both even with no tags!

I will make sure the Heliconia is not planted where they may get wet feet.

I've had good luck with Heliconia Lady Di both in a relatively low area that got flooded with every afternoon thunderstorm, and in a raised bed area with a couple of fan sprayers-on-a-stick covering the area every morning.  The one thing they don't like is wet feet in the winter.  That goes for most Heliconia, I think.  One thing to keep in mind is that they spread aggressively by underground rhizome, so they shouldn't be planted where you don't want them to spread.  Last summer I built the attached 2-high raised bed for them to contain the rhizomes.  I planted about 10-15 rhizomes from another area, you can see how rapidly they filled out the bed.  And that's with them being burnt to the ground at the end of January!