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Texas -6F Trachycarpus Fortunei Survivor full of Seeds


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Pure luck, only one female ( north side) and a male (south side) survived. Sabals, meds, and other Trachycapus died. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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I'd see if you could get a handful of the seeds from whomever the building owner is.

Those are some prime time genetics!

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6 hours ago, floridaPalmMan said:

I'd see if you could get a handful of the seeds from whomever the building owner is.

Those are some prime time genetics!

I’d have to bring a step ladder and pruners next time. They are about 10Ft off the ground. I assume ready in a month. I was looking for seeds, first one I have found from a Trachy this season. A surprisingly high amount of Trachycarpus died below + 5F. Almost all below 0F. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted

Generally speaking, Trachycarpus forunei won't survive the temps you've mentioned. Maybe the close proximity to the building might have helped.

As a side note, I collected some seed from a palm that been thru a particularly cold winter here. None of the seeds germinated. Reasons unknown, and I've never had that happen in 40 years of palm growing. 

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30 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Generally speaking, Trachycarpus forunei won't survive the temps you've mentioned. Maybe the close proximity to the building might have helped.

As a side note, I collected some seed from a palm that been thru a particularly cold winter here. None of the seeds germinated. Reasons unknown, and I've never had that happen in 40 years of palm growing. 

Sure, building helped but how really much, next to open farm land, rural. There were other Trachycarpus right next to it die. This one was on the north side of the building, no winter sun. There was also a Trachycarpus out in the open a few miles north survive. All over Texas, same story, some lived,  some died at much warmer temperatures. This was a true culling of the weakest. Yes, I would not say this is a zone 6 palm, but this is no different than what Other speciality online nurseries or Botanical Gardens do, find the most extreme example of a survivor and propagate instead of just any non tested specimen.

Same rules apply, grow it to a large size in a good microclimate. 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted

Pictures May 2021, 2+ months after the freeze, only survivors were a male and female Trachycarpus. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted

-6°F where? Lubbock? Amarillo hit -11°F so somewhere south of there.

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On 9/18/2022 at 5:49 PM, Meangreen94z said:

-6°F where? Lubbock? Amarillo hit -11°F so somewhere south of there.

Never seen one that size in the warmer of the two.  

 

On 9/18/2022 at 9:46 AM, Las Palmas Norte said:

Generally speaking, Trachycarpus forunei won't survive the temps you've mentioned. Maybe the close proximity to the building might have helped.

As a side note, I collected some seed from a palm that been thru a particularly cold winter here. None of the seeds germinated. Reasons unknown, and I've never had that happen in 40 years of palm growing. 

Trachies have survived multiple winters at those temperatures and colder here in central NM.  Including mine at -10f

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Anyone want seeds,I would have to go back and ask for seeds? I’ll call ahead as it’s over 4 hours of driving. 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted

I myself have two T. Fortunei that sailed through our Feb 2021 event and rollin' along but not close to seeding yet... when they do end up seeding these are solid survivor genetics.  Always nice to weed out genetics and pick the best.. 

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On 9/18/2022 at 10:34 AM, Collectorpalms said:

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My own winner in my own yard.  Double down! -9f and -10f and not near any structure. 

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Those look deformed (non-viable). The seeds should be reniform.

 

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Posted

Good to know.  First time it set seed. 

Dog actually ate the blooms this year and that cluster was what hung on over this winter.  He trims palms too!

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