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Which dypsis?


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I got this palm from a Oaxaca seller, obviously its a dypsis, any guesses of what could it be?

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43 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

obviously its a dypsis, any guesses of what could it be?

???

I guess I'm not so good at identification of seedlings as to know why it is obviously a Dypsis, Chrysalidocarpus, or even a Vonitra.  Maybe you or someone else will explain why you rule out everything except Dypsis?

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I conclude that this is some type of Archontophoenix, possibly tuckeri. Due to the similarity.

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1 hour ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

I conclude that this is some type of Archontophoenix, possibly tuckeri. Due to the similarity.

The only thing that is obvious about this seedling is that it's a pinnate palm.  Many seedlings are bifid and start out like that.  If you had a photo of the seed that would help a lot with an ID.  Archontophoenix is certainly possible and the seed would be small and spherical.  Some Chrysalidocarpus seeds are small but are more oblong with a pointed end like these Chrysalidocarpus pembana seeds below.

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Jon Sunder

Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Fusca said:

The only thing that is obvious about this seedling is that it's a pinnate palm.  Many seedlings are bifid and start out like that.  If you had a photo of the seed that would help a lot with an ID.  Archontophoenix is certainly possible and the seed would be small and spherical.  Some Chrysalidocarpus seeds are small but are more oblong with a pointed end like these Chrysalidocarpus pembana seeds below.

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The seed is round, here's the seed in one of the three palms that were sent to me.20221117_204007.thumb.jpg.1621c4a3291708afc41ae2971b6e8307.jpg

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Looks exactly like these A. Tuckeri seeds

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That's a better indicator - it may not be tuckeri but it definitely does look like Archontophoenix.  :)

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Jon Sunder

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 I have a Ptychosperma elegans, Archontophoenix tuckeri and Chrysalidocarpus pembana seedlings in the following photo at roughly the same size.  Not so easy to tell them apart - at least for me!  Anyone want to give it a shot?  LOL!

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Jon Sunder

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

 I have a Ptychosperma elegans, Archontophoenix tuckeri and Chrysalidocarpus pembana seedlings in the following photo at roughly the same size.  Not so easy to tell them apart - at least for me!  Anyone want to give it a shot?  LOL!

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I'd like a shot at this! Ptychosperma elegans, pembana and tuckerii in that order is my guess lol

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13 hours ago, Palmiz said:

I'd like a shot at this! Ptychosperma elegans, pembana and tuckerii in that order is my guess lol

I assume that you are listing from left to right.  No, sorry.  Even if you meant from right to left it's not correct.  So that leaves just 4 other possibilities.

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Jon Sunder

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37 minutes ago, Fusca said:

So that leaves just 4 other possibilities.

Hold up.  Let me break out a confusion matrix.  We are going to figure this out...

Ptychosperma elegans Chrysalidocarpus pembana Archontophoenix tuckeri
Archontophoenix tuckeri Chrysalidocarpus pembana Ptychosperma elegans
Ptychosperma elegans Archontophoenix tuckeri Chrysalidocarpus pembana
Chrysalidocarpus pembana Archontophoenix tuckeri Ptychosperma elegans
Archontophoenix tuckeri Ptychosperma elegans Chrysalidocarpus pembana
Chrysalidocarpus pembana Ptychosperma elegans Archontophoenix tuckeri
   
     
     
     
     
     

Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

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I googled photos of seedlings of these 3 palms but A. Tuckeri is the one that looks exactly like mine

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