the Italian coconut that doesn't give up

[GottmitAlex]

I believe you are referring to Isabel from Málaga. It's been a long time. I hope her coconut, (wherever it may be) thrives.

 

[gurugu]

1 hour ago, GottmitAlex said:

I believe you are referring to Isabel from Málaga. It's been a long time. I hope her coconut, (wherever it may be) thrives.

 

That's it!

A pity that she doesn't write in the Spanish forum any more. 

[gurugu]

By the way, her coconut is still alive and kicking! 

[Aleitalyyy]

good morning friends of the coconut at the limit...

how are yours? @gurugu

mine today is like this, the sky is always cloudy and the room is not so hot... but let's say he's fine... he has a new nozzle that pushes

[gurugu]

@Aleitalyyy

Your palms looks very healthy, indeed!

Mine are doing ok so far. Old leaves are getting brown, but I don´t mean to prune them. New ones are as green as yours. I see that you cut the tips off. Do you usually do so?

Minimum temperatures in the porch have been 11ºC  for a couple of days so far, but  usually 15 ºC, or over, and maximums over 20ºC in sunny days, and below that in cloudy ones. When do you think it will get rid of the seed? I thought that was before 2/3 years after being planted in the  pot.

[Aleitalyyy]

ok, post some pics when you can... yes I cut off the tips to mine because it was too big and the leaves prevent me from opening the window... but the new ones that come out will no longer be cut because being taller I will pass underneath... instead the walnut does not come off, I read on the Facebook group the "le piante tropicali e sub tropicali" that for some the walnut came off after 2 years ... mine started the fourth year ...

[psy460]

i'm growing coconut in pot too. 

i got it 20 month ago, it grows well, but i will soon have to sell it because it's too big. 

 

 

 

[psy460]

On march 2021 :

 

Spring 2022 : 

[Aleitalyyy]

@psy460 oh my god how beautiful is your coconut? where do you grow them in the french riviera? i'm from liguria near alassio city... your coconut is fantastic dear.. did you put pure sand in the vase?

 

[Aleitalyyy]

do you have a glazed room heated for the winter? if yes, can you tell me the temperatures you keep in your garden greenhouse? thank you

[psy460]

Thank you !

Nope it's just to cover, to avoid gnats.

i'm 50km above paris, 49.44 north, 2.74 east, usda 8a

 

i keep temperature above 17°C nightly and 25/40°C by day

 

 

 

 

 

[Aleitalyyy]

optimal! keep us updated... keep the coconut as long as you can... I keep it in the bedroom but I don't give it away...

 

[psy460]

I have only 220cm height for winter, it will be hard hehe. 

I would like to get a dwarf one. 

[Aleitalyyy]

hehe 220cm mine exceeded them... I couldn't find the dwarf orange varieties here in Italy... they only sell the green ones...

[gurugu]

17 hours ago, Aleitalyyy said:

ok, post some pics when you can... yes I cut off the tips to mine because it was too big and the leaves prevent me from opening the window... but the new ones that come out will no longer be cut because being taller I will pass underneath... instead the walnut does not come off, I read on the Facebook group the "le piante tropicali e sub tropicali" that for some the walnut came off after 2 years ... mine started the fourth year ...

The one on the left will be 1 year old next February the 6th (that´s when I bought it last year). The one on the right, next late March. Both are 1,70/80 mts tall. Oddingly, the latter was planted in a slightly wider pot, (19cm wide pot when bought at the big store, versus 21cm wide now), but it has grown the best. Just look at the open leaves!

 

Here are the other two. Both also bought in March last year. These are 1,50/60 mts tall. Brown leaves are last year´s , the first ones. The new ones are pretty green yet. The four of them are in an unheated porch.

Autumn and winter, so far, have been very mild. If temperatures fall lower than 2/3ºC outdoors, I will take them inside home, just in case, because that means that porch temperatures could reach only 7/8ºC.

By the way, how often do you water yours in winter?

16 hours ago, psy460 said:

i'm growing coconut in pot too. 

i got it 20 month ago, it grows well, but i will soon have to sell it because it's too big. 

 

 

 

You´ve done very well planting it in a very big pot, chances of survival are higher. And at those temperatures you have in your porch, it has room to grow bigger and healthier.

If you lived in the French Basque country o in Cote d´azur, you could plant it outdoors, if well sheltered, of course!. That´s what I plan to do in the future, when it is big enough (and doesn´t die)

Well done! Bien joué!

[Aleitalyyy]

gurus are beautiful compliments! I water every week as soon as I see that the leaf stops growing, I water it... (I mark the leaf with a marker)

now I water with a mix of potash / hot water, and 2 caps of saw palmetto! ah by the way, I slowly removed the seed and it came away... so I filled the hole where the seed was with earth! I put the photos!

[psy460]

@gurugu thank you ! 

there i have no chance to plant it in the ground, even in 50years. 

I hope trunk will get wider and not higher.  to let me keep indoor from October to march 

[Aleitalyyy]

@Fenicia my friend, here is the experiment with my coconut, maybe you will like to read ... I'll do an update at the end of January...

[Aleitalyyy]

coconut friends here is a photo from this morning where cocos grows quite happy at a temperature of 16/18 degrees celsius!

finally a bit of sun!

[palmnut-fry]

I would be amazed if you can keep it going. Some peeps in Texas have tried but the last few years of deadly freezes have done them in,

am pretty sure. Cocos like high heat & humidity of the Equator. It's impractical to grow and you can get the same look in many other genera, 

say Butia, which is fantastically cold hardy and beautiful! Survived our palmaggedon! 

[Aleitalyyy]

On 1/21/2023 at 6:44 PM, palmnut-fry said:

I would be amazed if you can keep it going. Some peeps in Texas have tried but the last few years of deadly freezes have done them in,

am pretty sure. Cocos like high heat & humidity of the Equator. It's impractical to grow and you can get the same look in many other genera, 

say Butia, which is fantastically cold hardy and beautiful! Survived our palmaggedon! 

If you look at the pics on the bottom right I bought an alfredi... in case coconut decides to die

[Aleitalyyy]

good morning guys friends of the coconut ... my coconut after a period of deterioration which I thought was due to the cold winter at home, instead it was because the roots were no longer inside the container .... so many roots piled up and as big as fingers. .. today the palm is better but I have to transplant otherwise it dies

[Aleitalyyy]

how are your coconuts? @psy460 @gurugu

[Axel Amsterdam]

When i saw this coconut growing in someones apartment in Holland i thought of this thread. What a great palm. 

[Axel Amsterdam]

I found a coconut the size of a small football and could’t resist buying it. 

[meridannight]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:27 PM, Axel Amsterdam said:

When i saw this coconut growing in someones apartment in Holland i thought of this thread. What a great palm. 

That house belongs to an architect and has been specifically designed to be able to grow exotic plants indoors. It has a suspended roof and either 360º or nearly so exposure to light coming from the outside. So, not your usual domestic environment.

[Axel Amsterdam]

really? has it been featured in sone architectual magazine somewhere?

[meridannight]

15 hours ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

really? has it been featured in sone architectual magazine somewhere?

I have no idea. But I recognize that house (once upon a time I trained to be an architect myself). 

I tried to find some online source for it, but I only found this Dutch site that features it:

https://ecoengineers.nl/project/renovatie-dak-ecowoning-culemborg

I think Ecoengineers were the authors of the project, but don't quote me. I'm not that familiar with that object. So yeah, that's where your Cocos image is from.

 

[Slifer00]

On 11/17/2022 at 8:18 PM, Aleitalyyy said:

when it will be overgrown I will try to put it in the ground covering the palm in the months from November to March with cloths and heated cables... I'll try and then we'll see... up to now it has seen temperatures up to 12° Celsius and inside house lives at 16\18 degrees celsius ...

Even though there may not be any frosts, prolonged exposure below say 10-12°C will cause damage during the winter. I highly recommend getting some form of heating for it. Unfortunately, coconuts require lots of sun year round so you can not put too much burlap/sheet protection on it either.