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The thread about the very blue Brahea armata, inspired me to start a new thread to try to find the bluest palm.  Photo evidence will be required, no editing please.  I suppose it is a little subjective, as some "blue" palms are very pale and others have a more saturated hue, but I'm sure being an amicable bunch we can come to an agreement as to which is the bluest.

I have noticed some fairly blue palms amongst my photos, so I will post those to get the ball rolling.

To start one of Bismarckia nobilis photos from the Palmetum at Tenerife.  Not the often seen pale blue, but still fairly blue.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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This Butia capitata at Kew exhibits the more traditional pale blue hue.

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This Chamaerops humilis, also at Kew and clearly not var.cerifera, still seems to have quite a bluish hue.  The ones at Kew seem to be bluer inside and greener outside, suggesting environment is somewhat responsible.

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I have a few pictures of Brahea armata, but none as blue as the one in the other thread.  There seem to be a few Coccothrinax and Trithrinax that have a bit of blue to them.  Which others can you show here?

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Posted

(Neofolis @ Sep. 17 2007,01:32)

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This Chamaerops humilis, also at Kew and clearly not var.cerifera, still seems to have quite a bluish hue.  The ones at Kew seem to be bluer inside and greener outside, suggesting environment is somewhat responsible.

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Not enviornment, but a plant variation. Some of the tree companies call it a 'silver back' here. When they get big, they look nice with the whitish-blue underside. Like the one at kew, it seems this form is usually what RLR called pendent segiment form. They have the long petioles - which I am not a fan of. I like the shorter petioles, giving it a more compact looking crown. Also, the longer petioles in this case are not shade or light enduced.

Here is one I took a new Coccothrinax "Azul" leaf.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

"bluest" is a subjective term of course as it really does not describe a color.  the color of a palm depends on ambient lighting, for example humidity removes red from white light, making the ambient light more blue, and hence any object that it falls on more blue.  A good example is how a white plaster pool, when filled, looks like it has blue water.  My bismarckias look most blue on cloudy days near the edges of the day when the light passes through the most water vapor.  I have a number of braheas(7), all are quite blue, that is powder blue.  Here is perhaps my most "powder blue" brahea, by a narrow margin.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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Dear friends  :)

lovely stills & please keep them comming...

love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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here is another blue palm a chamaerops cerifera that I bought on ebay.  It is an almost ice blue on the newer fronds.  My experience with cerifera is that they become more blue as they age and are exposed to full sun.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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very nice pics.... :) I want to see more blue :D

Southwest

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here is my largest(and least blue) brahea near sunset.  This picture I call "greyghost", as the palm seems ghostly in the fading light.  Note the tips of a bluer brahea just to the right.  I actually love the diversity of the color in my palms, I dont want every one to be powder blue, greens and blue greens create a whole palate of color.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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Here is a pic that contains some of the pallette of color.  It was taken just after the jan '07 freeze as much of the non palms are dead here.  Incredibly my braheas became more blue with the loss of the surrounding canopy, and they grew faster as well.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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Here are a few more Bismarckia's that had to be the bluest palms I've ever seen. They are at the Kennedy Space Center Visitors Center in Florida, which has a nice population of other interesting palms and cycads in their landscape as well.

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How about Seranoa repens and Hyphaene coriacea

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(Brad-Tampa @ Sep. 17 2007,16:04)

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How about Seranoa repens and Hyphaene coriacea

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very nice, I have 2 serenoa repens seedlings(silver phase), hopefully they will look as beautiful as those someday.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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this our bizie lady in our terrace gardens in south india_

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love conquers all..

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this is breha armeta growing in terrace top !

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love conquers all..

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Heres one you wouldn't suspect...kinda blue.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

If you're asking me, seems like many of these palms are more grey than blue...! ???  When it comes to real blue, not too many can compete with Dictyocaryum lamarckianum. Here's one that just lost an old frond, so it's really more purple than blue.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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And after a couple of weeks, I'd say they're definitely blue!

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Leave it to Bo to blow away my pretty picture of my K. piersoniorum leaf... :P

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Dear Bo Goran  :)

your palms are terrefic and they have close resemblence to birds of paradise flowers..and my eyes are finding it hard to believe its colours...so unnaturally beautiful(like artificial plastic palms)..

thanks for those lovely stills,

love,

Kris  :)

love conquers all..

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I have 3 Serenoa that I bought at the S. Fla. palm sales over the years. There were a number of plants to pick from, and I picked out the bluest of the blue. After growing in N. Calif. for several years (slowly) they have lost most of the blue. I can't figgure it out. One would think growing in the bright Calif. sun, they would be even more blue.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Dick, The Seranoa in the picture that I posted was originally dug from across the street from Dent Smith's house. As you know the "bluist" saw palmettos occur naturally along the east coast beach strand. However more inland to the west are naturally occuring populations of a mix of green with blue specimens. The blue plants will hold their color throughout Florida when grown outside their natural range, so it appears to be genetic. It is curious why yours appear to "fade' in Calif.

Bo, What a beautiful palm! But what about blue fruit as in Livistona?

Brad

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Brad,

I'm very familiar with the very Serenoa that grows on your property as I've seen it many times.  It's one of the nicest forms I've ever seen, and so robust.

I remember years ago that Dent Smith had a small Serenoa growing at the driveway entrance to his property. It was silver/white and I've never seen another that had so much color.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Phoenix theophrasti has to get a mention. This is my bluest.

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Andy Pearson

Valencia,

Spain.

www.palmtraders.com

Specialist hardy palm nurseries :) (Exporting to the UK )

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small bismarckia in the ground.

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Couple of mature Armata found in Ensenada near the beach.

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Sorry I had to edit the pics were toooo smalls

Escondido: the Ideal place to grow palms

Could it be? I'll try.

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Nannorhops ritchiana, sorry just a seedling. Lets see in a few years...

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Alicante (East coast of Spain)

Mediterranean climate, very hot and dry summers and mild almost frost-free winters.

Poor rain average.

Posted

(bgl @ Sep. 24 2007,23:41)

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If you're asking me, seems like many of these palms are more grey than blue...! ???  When it comes to real blue, not too many can compete with Dictyocaryum lamarckianum. Here's one that just lost an old frond, so it's really more purple than blue.

OMG!!  That purple! and the blue!  gaaaaasp!

Bo - it is astonishly beautiful, there aren't words to describe something like that.  Unreal.

Corey - thanks for starting this topic.  I'd like to see more of the blues (and the silver).  Anyone have pix of blue latan?  B. decumbens?

LJG - how old is your Azul?   The leaf on yours is much more silver than mine.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

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