What's your favorite tropical/subtropical trees?

[Emman]

My favorite tree is the stately southern live oak(quercus virginiana), symbol of the Deep South.

Other favorites include 

camphora officinarum

longleaf pine

magnolia grandiflora

norfolk island pine

koelreuteria bipinnata

melia azedarach

callistemon(many varieties)

eriobotrya japonica

taxodium distichum

schefflera actinophylla

citrus reticulata

eucalyptus globulus 

ficus elastica

ficus auriculata

cassia grandis

indian gooseberry

casuarina equisetifolia

 

Edited December 21, 2022 by Emman

[kinzyjr]

@Emman

A few of my favorites:

• Rainbow Eucalyptus: Eucalyptus deglupta
• Florida Strangler Fig: Ficus aurea
• Fiddle-leaf fig: Ficus lyrata
• Indian Banyan Tree: Ficus benghalensis
• Gumbo Limbo: Bursera simaruba
• Royal poinciana: Delonix regia
• Mango: Mangifera indica
• Jackfruit: Artocarpus heterophyllus
• Avocado: Persea americana
• Sea Grapes: Coccoloba uvifera
• Autograph Tree: Clusia rosea

[RedRabbit]

Let’s see, here are a few that immediately come to mind:

Ficus, Royal poinciana, Hong Kong orchid, kapok trees, sausage trees, mahogany, tipuana tipu, angel trumpet…

[Silas_Sancona]

Hoaa boy, lol... < rolls up sleeves >  This is going to be a loonnngggg list... ( ...i ...have ....many "favorites" )

We'll start in Mexico, and locally..  Some are already well known and in cultivation..  Many aren't, ...but need to be.. 

NO shortage of interesting tree options for the southwest / west in general, from the Southwest and near by..  Obviously, majority of species from the mountains of Mexico likely won't work in the dry low desert while some may not survive where temps drop below roughly the mid teens ( hardier mountain stuff )

Mexican Quercus, specifically:                                                     Mexican Pinus:                                                                  Other broad-leaved, evergreen / seasonally deciduous Mexican stuff:
Q, tarahumara                                                                               P.  maximartinezii                                                                      Magnolia pacifica and var. tarahumara
Q. conzattii                                                                                   P. maximioni                                                                               Ficus petiolaris var. petiolaris
Q. rugosa * Mexican form*                                                          P. yecorensis                                                                                Ficus petiolaris v. palmeri                                                     
Q.  jonesii, **formally known as Q. coccolobifolia **                P. pseudostrobis, ...and var. apulcensis       F. brandegeei **  ** = May or may not be a recognized species **
Q. macvaughii                                                                             P. oocarpa                                                                                     F. insipida
Q. resinosa                                                                                  P. pinceana                                                                                   F. trigonata
Q. obtusa                                                                                     P. rzedowski                                                                                  F. cotinifolia
Q. polymorpha                                                                            P. oocarpa                                                                                     F. pertusa
Q. crassifolia                                                                               P. teocote                                                                                      F. maxima
Q. calophylla                                                                              P. patula                                                                                         Clethra mexicana
Q germana                                                                                 P. montezuma                                                                                Clethra pringlei
Q. rysophylla                                                                              Taxodium mucronatum                                                                Swietenia macrophylla
Q. crassipes                                                                                Cupressus lusitanica                                                                     Swietenia humilis
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Diospyros californica
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Diospryos aequoris
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Diospyros sonorae
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Bursera, Pachycormis  -all sp.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Randia capitata, thurberi, echinocarpa, obcordata, & mollis
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Hintonia latifolia, & standleyana
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Vitex mollis
                                                                                                                                              Arbutus xalapensis, arizonica, (  both are widespread in Mexico ) and A.bicolor                                                                                                                                                                                                         Morkillia mexicana, & acuminata
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Forchhammeria  -All species..
Arizona / California:                                                                                                                                                                      Neltuma laevigata, & palmeri                                  
Pinus coulteri                          Quercus doulasiana                                                                                                                      Brongniartia -all tree sized species
Pinus sabiana                          Quercus chrysoleps                                                                                                                      Piscidia mollis
Pinus englemanii                    Quercus englemanii                                                                                                                     Ebanopsis caesalpinioides, and confinis
Pinus leiophylla                      Quercus oblangifolia                                                                                                      Jacquinia * Bonellia * macrocarpa, and v. pungens
Cupressus  arizonica               Quercus arizonica                                                                                                                        Albizia sinaloensis
Cupressus  a. glabra               Quercus rysophylla * AZ form                                                                                                      Hesperalbizia occidentalis
Cupressus forbesii                  Quercus hypoleucoides                                                    Garcinia vleerackeri ( Luc's Garcinia, discovered in the mountains near Mazatlan )  Pinus monophylla             Q. grisea, kelloggii, tomentella, gambelli, and Q. emoryi      Guaiacum coulteri, and var. palmeri, and G. sanctum (occurs on mainland Mexico)
Pinus cembroides                   Populus fremontii                                                                                                                         Pseudobombax ellipticum and palmeri
Pinus torreyana                         Umbellularia californica                                                                                                            Ceiba aesculifolia, and C. a. ssp.  parvifolia
Arbutus menziesii                     Aesculus californica, and parryi                                                                                                Chloroleucon mangense and C. l leucospermum
Ornithostaphylos oppositifolia                                                                                                                                                     Erythrina -all species native to Mexico
Onleya tesota                                                                                                     Tree-sized Ipomoea sp ( arborescens, I. a. pachylutea, murucoides, pauciflora, conzattii )
Nultuma velutina, and glandulosa v. torreyana                                                                                                                          Conzattia multiflora, chiapensis, sericea
Vauquelinia californica, and corymbosa                                                                                                                                       Lonchocarpus hermanii and guatemalensis
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lysiloma candida 
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Mariosousa salazarii, and coulteri
                                                                                                                                              erymenium grande, & some other "Tree-sized Sunflowers" in various Genus
                                                                                                                                                                                   Mexican Manihot species  ( some really neat sp. there )
                                                                                                                         Mexican Ardisia sp. ..A. revolta, compressa, & escallonioides ( occurs in Mexico as well as FL )
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Citharexylum affine, berlanderi, & flabellifolium
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Bauhinia, all species that occur in Mexico.
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Mexican Handroanthus sp. ( formally Tabebuia )
                                                                    Haematoxylon, the various Genus that once were part of Caesalpinia,  Poeppigia procera, and  Platymiscium trifoliolatum



...I'm sure i'm forgetting stuff.  Anyway, onto South America and select parts of Africa / the middle East, and Australia..



 

Edited December 22, 2022 by Silas_Sancona
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[Tracy]

58 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

This is going to be a loonnngggg list... ( ...i ...have ....many "favorites" )

I think the goal is to narrow the list but its ok if they are all favorites.

I like the selection of some of the Ficus species and/or forms petiolaris, palmerii, brandegii too.  I'm sure you will have some additional Ficus on your Africa / Middle East /Australia / Pacific list, but I'll get you jump started Ficus dammaropsis, roxburghii, abutilifolia, vasta (socatrana).  Well you don't have to use those but they would make my list. 

Skipping to some completely different trees:  Adansonia grandidieri, Enterolobium cyclocarpum.

Trying to keep my list short and focused on favorites, but I do reserve the right to change up favorites in the future.

[Silas_Sancona]

             Texas, FL, Caribbean basin..  Several of the more adaptable, uncommon species from the Caribbean and S. Fl. should be trialed more here and in S. Cal.  Have a few of these, and most have done well here so far.

West and S. Texas, and Eastern Mexico:                                                                                             S. FL. and Caribbean region
Amyris texana                                                                                                             Pinus palustris                          Ficus americana, aurea, and citrifolia
Ebanopsis ebano                                                                                                          Pinus elliottii, and var densa     Vachellia sphaerocephala, collinsii, & cornigeria    Cordia boisseri                                                                                                              Pinus caribaea                                         Capparis cynophallophora
Ehretia anacua                                                                                                              Cordia sebestena                                          Citharexylum spinosum
Leucanea retusa, and greggii                                                                                       Vachellia choriophylla ..Done well here so far            Catesbaea spinosa 
Bauhinia sp of eastern Mexico ( and TX. )                                                                   Guaiaum officinale   did well for awhile here               Portlandia, all sp.
Amyris maderensis                                                                                                         Chrysophyllum oliviforme                                           Poitea florida, and carinalis
Dermatophyllum secundiflorum, Styphnolobium affine                                                 Gymnanthes lucida                                                       Swietenia mahagoni
Guaiacum angustifolium                                                                                                    Piscidia piscupula                                Guazuma ulmifolia ( West Indian Elm )
 Myrospermum sousanum                                                                                                     Annona glabra                                                   Casasia clusiifolia  ( 7 yr. Apple )
 Lysiloma acapulcense                                                                                Clusia.. Caribbean and S. Fl. native sp.     Coccoloba uvifera ..also C. goldmanii from W. Mexico
 Sideroxylon ..Those sp. from FL, and W. Mexico / Baja as well                                    Coccoloba pubescens                                                Lysiloma latisiliquuim
 Taxodium distichum,  ..and ascendens                                                                               Bursera simarubra                                               Pimenta ..Allspice / Bay Rum
Diospyros texana                                                                                                                  Byrsonima lucida.                                                       Bourreria sp. ( Strongbark )
Fraxinus  cuspidata                                                                                                           Canella winteriana                                                     Jacquinia keyensis and berteroi

...... ..... ...Drawing blanks again, No bueno..

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[Xenon]

Durian, soursop, lychee, mango, and pomelo. Pretty and tasty, moreso the latter. 

 

 

[ahosey01]

15 hours ago, Emman said:

My favorite tree is the stately southern live oak(quercus virginiana), symbol of the Deep South.

Other favorites include 

camphora officinarum

longleaf pine

magnolia grandiflora

norfolk island pine

koelreuteria bipinnata

melia azedarach

callistemon(many varieties)

eriobotrya japonica

taxodium distichum

schefflera actinophylla

citrus reticulata

eucalyptus globulus 

ficus elastica

ficus auriculata

cassia grandis

indian gooseberry

casuarina equisetifolia

 

This is a great thread and a good list from you... But I reject the idea that anyone's favorite tree is actually Melia azedarach.... Lol 😂

For me, it is any of the Australian Acacia species with phyllodes instead of leaves.  I am particularly partial to Acacia estrophiolata and Acacia craspedocarpa.

[Emman]

2 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

This is a great thread and a good list from you... But I reject the idea that anyone's favorite tree is actually Melia azedarach.... Lol 😂

For me, it is any of the Australian Acacia species with phyllodes instead of leaves.  I am particularly partial to Acacia estrophiolata and Acacia craspedocarpa.

I know that chinaberry is hated by many, I know it's invasive but I genuinely like the way it looks.

It's got that nice tropical feathery foliage and purple/white blooms in spring, I have a gigantic one growing on the side of my house with all those orange beads right now.

[Silas_Sancona]

Central and South America:  .Already know i'll miss listing some..

Enterolobium, all three sp. 2, E. contortisiliquum and cyclocarpum, have been growing n Tucson ( Campus Arboretum ) for years.
Cochlospermum vitifolium, regium, and tetraporum..
Ceiba.. Several, inc. rubriflora, chodatii, speciosa, boliviana, pubiflora, schottii, jasminodora, erianthos, glaziovii..
Pterodon emarginatus
Bowdichia virgilioides
Gustavia and related  Genus
Osa pulchra
Brya ebenus ..Mine did fine here
Tipuana and Pterocarpus
Geoffroea
Erythrina -all Cen. / S. Amer. sp.
Bauhinia ..particularly these two S. American sp:   B. forficata and B. uruguayensis
Senna macaranthera, splendida, rugosa, ruiziana, & leptophylla
Libidibia ferra, Cenostigma pluviosum ...and var. peltophoroides,  and Paubrasilia echinata ( Brasilwood )
Schizolobium parahyba
Tree-form Mimosa sp.. ( M. manidea, regina, claussenii, rheiptera, rhodostegia etc.. )
Jacaranda - All sp.
Tibouchina ..All are great, but T. papyrus  is one of a kind.. Chaetogastra grossa, **formally Tibouchina grossa** is another unique "Glory Flower" sp.
Prosopis** likely re-assigned into a new Taxa** rubriflora ( ..a RED flowered Mesquite )
Manihot pulchrifolius
Jatropha macrocarpa
Cordia, larger flowered sp from Cen/ S. AM.
Passiflora macrophylla ( One of 3 tree-sized Passionflowers )
Chloroleucon tortum and tenuiflorum
Diphysia sp.
Inga, Ice Cream Beans
Bulnesia and Gonopterodendron
Handroanthus / Tabebuia.. All Cen / S. American sp.
Plinia / Jaboticaba, Eugenia.. Beautiful trees, Amazing fruit ( ..on most, lol )
S. and Cen. AM. Garcinia sp.

Evergreen..
S. American Araucaria, Incredible trees, even if i won't grow any myself..

[ahosey01]

1 hour ago, Emman said:

I know that chinaberry is hated by many, I know it's invasive but I genuinely like the way it looks.

It's got that nice tropical feathery foliage and purple/white blooms in spring, I have a gigantic one growing on the side of my house with all those orange beads right now.

For me the invasiveness here in AZ is not a problem - they don't spread without a water source in our climate. I just think they make really bad acute branch forks that break in every storm of consequence during our summers. The shade is fantastic though if you can find a big one around here. They never get more than 20 feet in our area cause all of the big branches break.

 

 

[Merlyn]

I don't actually have a lot of favorite trees, but I always liked the big Maples in the Midwest, and Live Oaks in Texas.  The other ones I like these days are the Banyans and large leaved Ficus like Auriculata/Roxburghii and Sea Grapes (Coccoloba Uvifera).  The problem is that they burn to the ground here (so far) every year.  This is good and bad, because they haven't gotten completely out of hand...but also don't get big enough to really admire.  At one point I'll try the Ficus Palmata "Icebox" that Plant Delights sells.  It's supposed to be a slightly more hardy type but with somewhat smaller leaves.

[Silas_Sancona]

Africa/ Madagascar/ Middle East:

Boswellia, Commiphora, Operculicarya ...All of them..
Capparis decidua
Gigasiphion
Baikiaea insignis, plurijuga
Bolusanthus speciosus
Peltophorum, All sp...
African Erythrina sp.
Albizia tanganyicensis
Tecomella undulata
Adansonia -African and Madagascar sp.
Ficus lutea, abutifolia, bubu, burtt-davyi, burkei, sur, sycomorus
Millettia oblata
Philenoptera violacea / capassa, nelsii, laxiflora
Bauhinia galpinii, madagascariensis, grevei, grandidieri, tomentosa, monandra, petersiana, urbaniana, hildebrantii, decandra
Delonix, all except D. floribunda ( just not a fan of it )   ** Tara, Lemuropism edule,  has now been lumped into Delonix ( Delonix edule ).  Lemuropism is now an inactive Taxon**
Xylotheca kraussiana
Acacia erioloba, xanthophloea, Senegalia pervilli ( ..A RED  flowered Acacia ) Vachellia tortilis
Virgilia divaricata, oroboites
African Sterculia sp.
Schotia -all sp.
Kigelia, Sausage Tree
Fernandoa and Stereospermum
Spathodea campanulata
Gardenia
Dombeya

[georgeinbandonoregon]

very interesting and diverse selection of trees by the various folks who posted.  FWIW, here's my list based on trees that can do well under my conditions of cool wet winters and cool very dry summers (USDA 9---Bandon, Oregon USA) and very sandy, acid, nutrient poor soils.   quercus tomentella, lyonthamnus florabundas asplenifolius, (southern California) quercus rugosa, q. sartorii,, q. candicans,  pinus montezumae, p. pseudostrobus, buddleja cordifolia (Mexico) eucalyptus scoparia, e dalrympleana, e. nitens, banksia integrifolia, telopea oreades (Australia), magnolia grandiflora, m. virginiana australis (s.e. USA) and arbutus menziesii, notholithocarpus densiflorus, umbellularia californica, (native).  araucaria angustifolia, a. araucana, (temperate South America).

[Silas_Sancona]

14 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

very interesting and diverse selection of trees by the various folks who posted.  FWIW, here's my list based on trees that can do well under my conditions of cool wet winters and cool very dry summers (USDA 9---Bandon, Oregon USA) and very sandy, acid, nutrient poor soils.   quercus tomentella, lyonthamnus florabundas asplenifolius, (southern California) quercus rugosa, q. sartorii,, q. candicans,  pinus montezumae, p. pseudostrobus, buddleja cordifolia (Mexico) eucalyptus scoparia, e dalrympleana, e. nitens, banksia integrifolia, telopea oreades (Australia), magnolia grandiflora, m. virginiana australis (s.e. USA) and arbutus menziesii, notholithocarpus densiflorus, umbellularia californica, (native).  araucaria angustifolia, a. araucana, (temperate South America).

  You getting acorns off any of your Mex. Quercus?   Good to hear P. montezumae and pseudostrobus are good up there too..   Will have to look up the Buddleja.

[georgeinbandonoregon]

Silas. some of the Mexican oak  trees have produced acorns and seedlings therefrom.  most Mexican pines (including engelmannii, durangensis, patula) do just fine here. got the buddleja from "woodlanders in Aiken, South Carolina (think they are still selling it by mailorder) my tree is nearly 30' tall.  

 

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

Silas. some of the Mexican oak  trees have produced acorns and seedlings therefrom.  most Mexican pines (including engelmannii, durangensis, patula) do just fine here. got the buddleja from "woodlanders in Aiken, South Carolina (think they are still selling it by mailorder) my tree is nearly 30' tall.  

 

Nice and thanks for the response..  You ever try Pinus maximartinezii?  I know a well known nursery up there in Oregon was selling them awhile back.. Tried a couple here and had planned on donating them to somewhere nearby where it is cooler but not too cold, but heat cooked both, despite being in shade..

Woodlanders offers one of the Mex. Clethra ( C. pringlei ) every so often.. Wish it were just a little cooler here to try it.

[georgeinbandonoregon]

30 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Nice and thanks for the response..  You ever try Pinus maximartinezii?  I know a well known nursery up there in Oregon was selling them awhile back.. Tried a couple here and had planned on donating them to somewhere nearby where it is cooler but not too cold, but heat cooked both, despite being in shade..

Woodlanders offers one of the Mex. Clethra ( C. pringlei ) every so often.. Wish it were just a little cooler here to try it.

maximartinezii seems rather cold tender and is so far the one Mexican pine that has not done well here.  the Mexican clethra pringlei should do fine under the same conditions as most of the montane "temperate" Mexican oaks and pines and certainly does just fine here.  it would likely appreciate part shade, and some summer water in hot summer climates. OTOH c. mexicana (beautiful large leaved evergreen tree from further south) is semi-tender and may be harmed/cut back  here in the coldest winters.

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[Silas_Sancona]

3 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

maximartinezii seems rather cold tender and is so far the one Mexican pine that has not done well here.  the Mexican clethra pringlei should do fine under the same conditions as most of the montane "temperate" Mexican oaks and pines and certainly does just fine here.  it would likely appreciate part shade, and some summer water in hot summer climates. OTOH c. mexicana (beautiful large leaved evergreen tree from further south) is semi-tender and may be harmed/cut back  here in the coldest winters.

C. mexicana looks like it would be very attractive..  Based on what data is posted on it's hardiness, i'd thought the same thing about P. maximartinezii when i saw the listing by the nursery..  At the same time, i'd thought i'd seen some reports of it surviving up there ..Can't remember where though.  Know there are supposedly specimens growing in at least one of the botanical gardens in the Bay Area ..possibly in S. Cal as well.

Not sure if it is the big leaves, combined w/ the typical look of the native Oaks i grew up around in California but have been attracted to all of them, and other interesting stuff growing in the mountains down there after seeing pictures of Q. tarahumara while researching other stuff that grows in the Tropical dry forests below the Pine / Oak areas in the mountains.  Trip down into the mountains in Sonora -at least- is on a future " to do"  list for sure..

Was nice to get a good look at the mid-elevation Quercus species, several of which extend well down into Mexico, growing in the mountains near the AZ/ Mex. border last summer.

Out of curiosity, Your Q. rugosa specimen(s) the AZ or Mex. form? ..I know the topic is debatable, but have heard repeatedly trees growing north of the border tend to have smaller ( ..but still nice-sized ) leaves, compared to specimens further south. ...To the point that some here consider the two species separate.  I'd grow both myself if i could of course, lol

 

[georgeinbandonoregon]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

C. mexicana looks like it would be very attractive..  Based on what data is posted on it's hardiness, i'd thought the same thing about P. maximartinezii when i saw the listing by the nursery..  At the same time, i'd thought i'd seen some reports of it surviving up there ..Can't remember where though.  Know there are supposedly specimens growing in at least one of the botanical gardens in the Bay Area ..possibly in S. Cal as well.

Not sure if it is the big leaves, combined w/ the typical look of the native Oaks i grew up around in California but have been attracted to all of them, and other interesting stuff growing in the mountains down there after seeing pictures of Q. tarahumara while researching other stuff that grows in the Tropical dry forests below the Pine / Oak areas in the mountains.  Trip down into the mountains in Sonora -at least- is on a future " to do"  list for sure..

Was nice to get a good look at the mid-elevation Quercus species, several of which extend well down into Mexico, growing in the mountains near the AZ/ Mex. border last summer.

Out of curiosity, Your Q. rugosa specimen(s) the AZ or Mex. form? ..I know the topic is debatable, but have heard repeatedly trees growing north of the border tend to have smaller ( ..but still nice-sized ) leaves, compared to specimens further south. ...To the point that some here consider the two species separate.  I'd grow both myself if i could of course, lol

 

tarahumara is one of the "holy grail" species but almost impossible to obtain as either seeds or plants.  Sean Hogan at Cistus Nursery near Porltand has several growing and they do look very cool.  my rugosa (aka q. reticulata) is apparently  the more southern large leaved ecotypes from somewhere in northern or central Mexico i think.  very nice large lush leaved trees. here are a couple pictures of one of my rugosa trees.

 

Edited December 23, 2022 by georgeinbandonoregon
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[Silas_Sancona]

1 minute ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

tarahumara is one of the "holy grail" species but almost impossible to obtain as either seeds or plants.  Sean Hogan at Cistus Nursery near Porltand has several growing and they do look very cool.  my rugosa (aka q. reticulata) is apparently  the more southern large leaved ecotypes from somewhere in northern or central Mexico i think.  very nice large lush leaved trees.

 

Oddly enough, there is a small nursery nearby, and another private collector who have occasionally offered tarahumara. Veteran member here on PT has been growing one in Escondido for ..over a decade now??.. as well.. Been awaiting any news on viable seed off theirs.. 

Good to know regarding rugosa / reticulata..  One of the forms has been doing pretty well so far where trialed in CA.

[georgeinbandonoregon]

38 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Oddly enough, there is a small nursery nearby, and another private collector who have occasionally offered tarahumara. Veteran member here on PT has been growing one in Escondido for ..over a decade now??.. as well.. Been awaiting any news on viable seed off theirs.. 

Good to know regarding rugosa / reticulata..  One of the forms has been doing pretty well so far where trialed in CA.

the seed for my trees most likely came from the oak collection at UC Davis 

 

[Silas_Sancona]

10 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

the seed for my trees most likely came from the oak collection at UC Davis 

 

I've heard a lot of good stuff about UC Davis' collection..  L.A. Arboretum supposedly has at least a few Mex. Oaks in their collection as well.  

[georgeinbandonoregon]

2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

I've heard a lot of good stuff about UC Davis' collection..  L.A. Arboretum supposedly has at least a few Mex. Oaks in their collection as well.  

yes, it does have a good collection of Mexican oaks and from lots of other places as well.----probably at least as good as LA for Mexican species and better for all the other quercus species.  

[Silas_Sancona]

27 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

yes, it does have a good collection of Mexican oaks and from lots of other places as well.----probably at least as good as LA for Mexican species and better for all the other quercus species.  

  Awesome, good to know.. 

[Silas_Sancona]

10 hours ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

yes, it does have a good collection of Mexican oaks and from lots of other places as well.----probably at least as good as LA for Mexican species and better for all the other quercus species.  

Aside from the Oaks, i wonder how some of these would do up in the Pac. N.W. / cooler, but not freeze prone mountain areas in California..

Pretty sure at least a few of the Oreopanax are in cultivation.. 3rd Magnolia sp. is in at least a couple Botanical Garden collections in the U.S...  Not sure about the other two, -yet anyway..

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/277576-Oreopanax-peltatus

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/274207-Magnolia-pacifica

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/938651-Magnolia-tarahumara

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/285414-Magnolia-tamaulipana

 

[georgeinbandonoregon]

Silas, sorry for late reply.  most all Mexican species of oaks, pines, cypress, dogwoods, maples, hickories, nolinas do just fine here (thank heavens) the conditions here of cool humid summers seem to be close enough to "cloudforest" conditions to make various plants from down there happy.  have magnolia tamaulpana and it looks nice but has not flowered yet after 15 years in the ground.  haven't seen any of the oreopanax available but a number of "tree ives" from New Zealand and China do well here.  

[Silas_Sancona]

12 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

Silas, sorry for late reply.  most all Mexican species of oaks, pines, cypress, dogwoods, maples, hickories, nolinas do just fine here (thank heavens) the conditions here of cool humid summers seem to be close enough to "cloudforest" conditions to make various plants from down there happy.  have magnolia tamaulpana and it looks nice but has not flowered yet after 15 years in the ground.  haven't seen any of the oreopanax available but a number of "tree ives" from New Zealand and China do well here.  

No worries George, 

I'd figured coastal Oregon might be a great area for a lot of the Mexican montane species, just wasn't sure on whether or not winters there would present more of a challenge at times..  Perhaps i'm thinking more mid elevational stuff, where winters in Northern Mex. can be pretty dry, as a pose to higher elevations / eastern areas where it is wetter..

Interesting.. i thought i'd seen at least a couple Oreopanax being offered.. A shame if not for sure..

On 12/22/2022 at 10:04 PM, georgeinbandonoregon said:

tarahumara is one of the "holy grail" species but almost impossible to obtain as either seeds or plants.  Sean Hogan at Cistus Nursery near Porltand has several growing and they do look very cool.  my rugosa (aka q. reticulata) is apparently  the more southern large leaved ecotypes from somewhere in northern or central Mexico i think.  very nice large lush leaved trees. here are a couple pictures of one of my rugosa trees.

 

Very nice!!  Pictures hadn't shown up in the post the other night, nice to see them now...    Would enjoy seeing some of your other Oaks  -when you have time to grab some pictures of course..

Will have to compare these to specimens of rugosa down south when i head back down there in a couple months.. Found a couple last September, but need to some other, larger specimens i missed at that time. Q. arizonica and grisea occur in the same area, so i don't doubt there are crosses mixed in w/ pure specimens of rugosa -and the other two i'm sure..

[georgeinbandonoregon]

11 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

No worries George, 

I'd figured coastal Oregon might be a great area for a lot of the Mexican montane species, just wasn't sure on whether or not winters there would present more of a challenge at times..  Perhaps i'm thinking more mid elevational stuff, where winters in Northern Mex. can be pretty dry, as a pose to higher elevations / eastern areas where it is wetter..

Interesting.. i thought i'd seen at least a couple Oreopanax being offered.. A shame if not for sure..

Very nice!!  Pictures hadn't shown up in the post the other night, nice to see them now...    Would enjoy seeing some of your other Oaks  -when you have time to grab some pictures of course..

Will have to compare these to specimens of rugosa down south when i head back down there in a couple months.. Found a couple last September, but need to some other, larger specimens i missed at that time. Q. arizonica and grisea occur in the same area, so i don't doubt there are crosses mixed in w/ pure specimens of rugosa -and the other two i'm sure..

here's some pictures of a couple of evergreen Mexican oaks growing here---first two are  q. candicans (aka q. dealbata) a white oak , second two are q. grahamii (aka q. acutifolia) a red/black oak.  last picture is nolina hibernica (with yucca recurvifolia in the background) hope these are of some interest.  Merry Christmas.

[Silas_Sancona]

41 minutes ago, georgeinbandonoregon said:

here's some pictures of a couple of evergreen Mexican oaks growing here---first two are  q. candicans (aka q. dealbata) a white oak , second two are q. grahamii (aka q. acutifolia) a red/black oak.  last picture is nolina hibernica (with yucca recurvifolia in the background) hope these are of some interest.  Merry Christmas.

Great pictures... Appreciate it   Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to you as well..

[Peter]

Super interesting Mexican oaks-thanks!  Any photos of your tarahumara?

[idontknowhatnametuse]

All Pseudobombax and Ceiba Species, Mango Trees (Mangifera Indica) and Sea Grape (Coccoloba Uvifera)

[georgeinbandonoregon]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

Super interesting Mexican oaks-thanks!  Any photos of your tarahumara?

Peter, sorry, don't have one of my own.  Sean Hogan of Cistus Nursery in Portland, Oregon has one but sadly none for yours truly 

 

[Silas_Sancona]

George,

Some of the Oaks / select extras from down near the border..  Madera Canyon / Santa Rita Mountains more specifically..

Mex. Blue Oak, Quercus oblongifolia ..Directly related to Q. englemanii in San Diego, and probably distantly related to Q. douglasii..  There's a plaque below this particular specimen listing it as a Q. grisea specimen, but leaves are wayy too blue, smooth, narrow to be Gray Oak, imo.







Silverleaf Oak, Quercus hypolecoides ..Very common once above roughly 5Kft in the canyon..  About as common as Tan Oak would be in the woodlands there in Southern Oregon, or in Nor. Cal. ( Grew up near / hiking throughout the Santa Cruz Mountains. )







Possibly Gray Oak ( Q. grisea )





Q. arizonica, i think..  Finding these two a little tough to tell apart.. Need to look at more specimens of both..





Pretty sure this is Q. rugosa, the form that grows here.. This one was kind of stunted, and stuffed in w/ a bunch of other stuff growing on the same hillside, so..  Some other places i plan on visiting next year where i should be able to see better examples of these..



AZ. Madrone,  Arbutus arizonica .. Specimens i saw where i sniffed around at Madera Canyon resemble stunted Pac. Madrone, imo.. Pretty sure there are taller ones in other areas of the park. / S. AZ mountains.





Pinus englemanii..  Reminds me of both P. elliottii  and a thin-ish P. coulteri.  Great looking "tropical" pine regardless. Platanus wrightii in the background and top right corner of the 2nd picture.. Q. hypoleucoides in front of the Apache Pine in picture #1.







Pinus strobiformis, S.W. White Pine

[RiSpain]

Yo apuesto por el majestuoso Cedro del Himalaya,El pino canario ,el drago canario y la Palmera Canaria,...ala

[GDLWyverex]

I am most fond of my Hura crepitans

and the Hura polyandra which has finally sprouted for me

not to forget the Brachychiton acerifolius 

and  the  Quercus buckleyi 

as well as the delightfull Cascabela thevetia 

and what's not to love of the Erythrina crista-galli

and the Erythrina coralloides

Richard

Edited December 26, 2022 by GDLWyverex

[Swolte]

On 12/24/2022 at 1:15 PM, georgeinbandonoregon said:

Hah, thought I recognized some pics! Awesome tree. Hope all is well, George. Good to see you posting here! 
(Steven from College Station) 

[georgeinbandonoregon]

if anybody's interested, here's another large-leaved "tropical" looking evergreen Mexican oak---quercus crassifolia growing at my place in Bandon, Oregon 

[georgeinbandonoregon]

1 hour ago, Swolte said:

Hah, thought I recognized some pics! Awesome tree. Hope all is well, George. Good to see you posting here! 
(Steven from College Station) 

Steven, how are you doing? have a lithocarpus henryi seedling if interested, also maybe a litsea japonica.  let me know.  happy New Year.

[georgeinbandonoregon]

On 12/25/2022 at 12:59 PM, Silas_Sancona said:

George,

Some of the Oaks / select extras from down near the border..  Madera Canyon / Santa Rita Mountains more specifically..

Mex. Blue Oak, Quercus oblongifolia ..Directly related to Q. englemanii in San Diego, and probably distantly related to Q. douglasii..  There's a plaque below this particular specimen listing it as a Q. grisea specimen, but leaves are wayy too blue, smooth, narrow to be Gray Oak, imo.







Silverleaf Oak, Quercus hypolecoides ..Very common once above roughly 5Kft in the canyon..  About as common as Tan Oak would be in the woodlands there in Southern Oregon, or in Nor. Cal. ( Grew up near / hiking throughout the Santa Cruz Mountains. )







Possibly Gray Oak ( Q. grisea )





Q. arizonica, i think..  Finding these two a little tough to tell apart.. Need to look at more specimens of both..





Pretty sure this is Q. rugosa, the form that grows here.. This one was kind of stunted, and stuffed in w/ a bunch of other stuff growing on the same hillside, so..  Some other places i plan on visiting next year where i should be able to see better examples of these..



AZ. Madrone,  Arbutus arizonica .. Specimens i saw where i sniffed around at Madera Canyon resemble stunted Pac. Madrone, imo.. Pretty sure there are taller ones in other areas of the park. / S. AZ mountains.





Pinus englemanii..  Reminds me of both P. elliottii  and a thin-ish P. coulteri.  Great looking "tropical" pine regardless. Platanus wrightii in the background and top right corner of the 2nd picture.. Q. hypoleucoides in front of the Apache Pine in picture #1.







Pinus strobiformis, S.W. White Pine

very nice pictures.  pinus engelmannii does ok here as does quercus hypoleucoides.  rugosa depending on genetics and environment/growing conditions can apparently be shrubby or a tree and tend to have smaller-leaved ecotypes at the northern end of it's range and larger leaved forms at the south.