Palm Id

[96720]

What Allegoptera do you think this is?

[idontknowhatnametuse]

A. Arenaria

[96720]

This one is supposed to be arenaria the leaflets are not so stiff!

[TheMadScientist]

I agree with the member from Mexico.  I had to go outside right now to verify stiff leaf, curly leaf even though I walk past it more than 10 times a day.  My oldest leaves get really curly as they age with the newest pushing up from the middle right now being flatter and to use your term "stiff".  What is would call a lighter colored "vein" up the middle of each leaf is a perfect match to what you posted.  I'll post a close up of mine as it has a photo bomb from a P. Theo biding for attention if  I pull back.  Second photo is my batch of 9 that have just had their first "germ" day and all working on their 3rd strap leaf.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by TheMadScientist

[tim_brissy_13]

Really doesn’t look like any A arenaria I’ve seen, although they are highly variable. A campestris is supposedly distinguishable for its stiff, not curled leaflets so that’s a possibility although they are not as common. Where is this palm?

[96720]

I’m in Phoenix I am kind of a collector I first bought the arenaria and then I saw this one for sale it was not supposed to be arenaria I also have the one that the just moved to the Allegoptera family I can’t think of it’s name right now 

[Merlyn]

I could definitely see that being Allagoptera Campestris.  I'd seen a couple of "Arenaria" photos with shorter, straight leaflets in the past.  I didn't realize that there was a separate species that grew about the same, but doesn't have the long recurved leaves.  That's a really neat one, hopefully it's just as hardy as Arenaria...I may need to seek one out!  Of course I already have 9 Arenaria in the ground and another 3 small ones in pots... 

[96720]

It is just as hardy as my arenaria have probably had it 5 years it has set seeds I guess maybe I should try to sprout some!

[Merlyn]

@96720thanks for the info!  My Arenaria have done great here, with freezes down to 24-26F and no damage to any decent sized ones.  Frost + 26F burned several large strap leaf ones, but they all came back in the spring.