Palm damage in TN

[Landasaw]

Unwrapping palms after winter 2022-2023. Needle palm took considerable damage. Pindo had partial spear pull.

[Landasaw]

The dwarf palmetto fared far better than the needle, which had spear pull, protected by a frost cloth only. The pindo and windmill had C9 lights and covers to 0 degrees. Power was out for hours.

[Allen]

Did you post pics of the pindo and needle?  I have had my palms uncovered for a while now.  Did you just now open them?  Are we talking about the Dec freeze?

[Landasaw]

Yeah that’s from the Dec freeze. I posted pics of a needle, dwarf palmetto, pindo, and windmill. Only the pindo and needle took significant damage and had spear pull. Dwarf palmetto unscathed. Windmill only tip of frond damage. Pindo had only partial spear pull and some frond damage. I’ve seen it recover from worse. Put hydrogen peroxide on it and the needle.

[Allen]

Which pic is the needle?  What am I looking at in pic 4?

Edited March 9, 2023 by Allen

[Landasaw]

The gaping hole from spear pull with a few green “fingers”.

[Allen]

6 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

The gaping hole from spear pull with a few green “fingers”.

So that is your pindo.  What pic is the needle?  And the pic with the rakes?  What is that

[Landasaw]

Yes the final pic is the pindo. The rake pic is tip damage on the windmill. Second pic is the needle with the spear pulled.

[Allen]

33 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

Yes the final pic is the pindo. The rake pic is tip damage on the windmill. Second pic is the needle with the spear pulled.

The needle pic had me really confused.  I had to look at it a few times.  It looks nothing like my needles and the petioles seem really wide and the fronds have no glossy/waxy look.  Here is one of mine from above for comparison unprotected.

[Landasaw]

It is really young and small. Plus it got stepped on so we’ll hope it revives in the summer. Yours looks great.

[Allen]

4 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

It is really young and small. Plus it got stepped on so we’ll hope it revives in the summer. Yours looks great.

I think it just didn't get established?  I have strap leaf needles that pulled thru great too.  The fungus all on the fronds, etc on the needle looks like pretty low odds.  I'd spray everything with copper fungicide.  soil, trunk, fronds, spear

here is my strap leaf one

[Little Tex]

His looks like waggie or maybe a tesan but it looks more like a waggie not typical form, @Landasawwhere did you get this from?

[Landasaw]

I got it from David’s Tennessee Palms

[SeanK]

I thought the Needle was a Waggie.

I don't find Needles to be consistent.

[Landasaw]

I’ll try some copper fungicide and see if it will revive.

[Landasaw]

I’ll try some copper fungicide and see if it will revive. How often should I spray it on?

[ChicagoPalma]

One or twice a week. I’m lazy on doing that  with my palm and I’m really busy these days but the humidity has dropped a lot after the big rain shower.

[ChicagoPalma]

But either way it’s best to spray the fungicide once or twice a week.

[Landasaw]

I’ve used hydrogen peroxide and copper fungicide 2x each. The rest of the pindo’s spear pulled, otherwise it looks good. The needle is looking bad. Warm weather the next few days. Im hoping it will help.

[Landasaw]

This is the needle now. Looks like Allen was right. Looks like it has gone to the inner fronds. Should I pull the plug?

[ChicagoPalma]

Give it time, put some more hydrogen peroxide, and every week or two spray copper fungicide. By the time it’s full on in the 80s and all that, needle should recover.  May or mid April and you might see a spear. I know that because my half dead recovering windmill looks like it’s gonna push out a spear since we’ve had a lot milder temps from 30s all the way to 60s.

[Landasaw]

The high is supposed to be 80 today And a few days in the 70s. I didn’t understand initially what I was looking at was fungus I thought it was cold damage from the Christmas freeze. It’s funny my Sabal minor Took 0° With zero damage. Killed the bushes in the front yard killed my Rosemary.

[Landasaw]

Here’s another Sabal minor At a local store nearly unscathed And barely protected.

[Allen]

3 hours ago, Landasaw said:

The high is supposed to be 80 today And a few days in the 70s. I didn’t understand initially what I was looking at was fungus I thought it was cold damage from the Christmas freeze. It’s funny my Sabal minor Took 0° With zero damage. Killed the bushes in the front yard killed my Rosemary.

Cold kills plant tissue - fungus attacks dead tissue- if left unchecked gives fungus a way to attack healthy tissue

[Bigfish]

On 3/23/2023 at 12:17 AM, Landasaw said:

This is the needle now. Looks like Allen was right. Looks like it has gone to the inner fronds. Should I pull the plug?

This is not a Needle Palm.  This is a Trachycarpus.

[Landasaw]

It was sold as a needle palm

[Landasaw]

Should I be worried about the brown leaves on the pindo Palm? It did survive down to about 5° back at Xmas And I’m treating it with copper fungicide and hydrogen peroxide

[PAPalmtrees]

if there's no sign of new growth I would cut the trunk and look for live tissue

[Allen]

28 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

Should I be worried about the brown leaves on the pindo Palm? It did survive down to about 5° back at Xmas And I’m treating it with copper fungicide and hydrogen peroxide

The pic is not close enough for me to see clearly but if it has a new spear there coming out as I think I'm seeing then it is ok.

[Landasaw]

There is not a new spear coming in yet But the base and inner leaves appear to be healthy. I just don’t want some kind of fungus spreading Or some kind Yellowing or some kind of deficiency

[Landasaw]

It was sold as a needle palm

[PAPalmtrees]

do you see any new growth down there?

 

[Landasaw]

No not yet. But a couple years ago it was worse off than this and came back. 

[PAPalmtrees]

ok

tyx

[Honez]

Hopefully they recover with this warm weather and rain.  I lost about 15 palms, breaker for the heater tripped the night of Christmas when is was 2 degrees.  Surprisingly two of my unprotected sabal seedlings survived all of the freezes outside and are growing again.

[Landasaw]

There comes the spear. Which means it survived a few hours of 5 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Landasaw]

Still no sign of a spear. But There’s still green and it doesn’t seem to be further languishing.