Palm recommendations (Central California) dry heat

[hex984]

Hello everyone, looking for some information as to which palms will handle our

winters 30°F (-2°C).  Our summers are HOT 100°-115° (37°-46°C) dry heat

Testing for this season chambeyronia macrocarpa, dypsis leptocheilos, dypsis decaryi,

beccariophoenix alfredii, chambeyronia hookeri, lyrocaryum hoehnei, chuniophoenix hainanensis.

Some of these palms will be in pots, so I can move them into a shady area once the summer comes around.

[Tracy]

17 minutes ago, hex984 said:

Hello everyone, looking for some information as to which palms will handle our

winters 30°F (-2°C).  Our summers are HOT 100°-115° (37°-46°C) dry heat

Testing for this season chambeyronia macrocarpa, dypsis leptocheilos, dypsis decaryi,

beccariophoenix alfredii, chambeyronia hookeri, lyrocaryum hoehnei, chuniophoenix hainanensis.

Some of these palms will be in pots, so I can move them into a shady area once the summer comes around.

You have an adventurous list for your location.  The New Caledonia species you mention (Chambeyronias) will definitely not appreciate being exposed in dry heat, nor will the Dypsis leptocheilos (now Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos).  The Chrysalidocarpus decaryi probably won't mind the heat, but I'm not sure about -2 C = 29.6 F.  I'll defer though to those who live closer to you in the Central Valley for recommendations.

It will be helpful to know if you have any existing tree canopy to provide shade during the summer for any of the plantings and a little warmer micro-climate during winter lows.  I suspect you will get some good recommendations from forum members in Fresno to your south and closer to the Delta to your west.  My thoughts went more to Brahea, Butia and Phoenix genus palms when I think of your area, but my thoughts may be more conservative on what else will thrive there.  Good luck.

[idontknowhatnametuse]

Any Sabal Sp.

Bismarckia Nobilis

Syagrus Coronata

Syagrus Schizophylla

Dypsis Onilahensis

[96720]

This is Mr royal!!!! Plant royals so you can get some shade most of the palms you mentioned need SHADE!!!!! But I have had good success so far with Chambyronia very little success with any Dypsis except the triangle palm!!! Keep us updated on your progress!!! The Beccariophoenix alfredii should do ok they are kind of a hit and miss with full sun!!

Edited March 21, 2023 by 96720
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[bruce Steele]

Check out the palms Jose Diaz grows in Fresno. Love the Jubaeopsis Caffra.

 

[bruce Steele]

Sorry I got your name wrong Josue, Really do love the Jubaeopsis and the Parajubaea Sunka. 

[Josue Diaz]

34 minutes ago, bruce Steele said:

Sorry I got your name wrong Josue, Really do love the Jubaeopsis and the Parajubaea Sunka. 

No problem Bruce 🤙🏽🤙🏽

 

2 hours ago, hex984 said:

Hello everyone, looking for some information as to which palms will handle our

winters 30°F (-2°C).  Our summers are HOT 100°-115° (37°-46°C) dry heat

Testing for this season chambeyronia macrocarpa, dypsis leptocheilos, dypsis decaryi,

beccariophoenix alfredii, chambeyronia hookeri, lyrocaryum hoehnei, chuniophoenix hainanensis.

Some of these palms will be in pots, so I can move them into a shady area once the summer comes around.

What part of the central valley are you in? Generally, the eastern part is milder than the western (lower) parts, and the southern parts are a degree or two warmer and sunnier in winter (less fog) which could make a huge difference in what can eek thru winter. 

 

Of your original list:

chambeyronia macrocarpa - great in shade. Mine throw a new leaf in April and one in October. Jeff has a large one in Modesto that is planted on the north side of his house and is beginning to trunk.

dypsis leptocheilos - don't mind the heat, but really languish over winter. Heavy spotting and general decline - especially during long, wet winters like we got this year.

 

Dypsis (C.) decaryi - doesn't mind heat. Heavy spotting in winter

beccariophoenix alfredii - no issues. Light spotting over winter.

chambeyronia hookeri - same as macrocarpa.

lyrocaryum hoehnei - no issues cold or hot. 

chuniophoenix hainanensis - no issues cold or hot. Slow grower though. 

 

Great (uncommon) palms for my area (Fresno) have been: chrysalidocarpus decipiens, Parajubaea sunkha, the myriad of Phoenix species and hybrids, syagrus amara, syagrus coronata, caryota urens (several large ones exist in Fresno), archontophoenix (in shade as young ones, and letting them grow into sun), any of the trachycarpus, any of the brahea, ravenea glauca, ravenea xerophila (will spot), copernicia prunifera, livistonas (speciosa, lanuginosa, decipiens...) howea forsteriana and belmoreana (in shade), chrysalidocarpus baronii, most of the chamaedorea in shade, bismarckia, Jubaeopsis... can't think of others at this point, but there are lots of really cool options given the right environment. 

 

 

[hex984]

THANK YOU!!! everyone for the recommendations and advise.  I got hooked on palms and want them all lol 🤪🤣.  So far the young palms I started with kings palms (cunninghamiana) and pygmy date palms, Queens (Syagrus Romanzoffiana) have survived the second winter.  

Definitely going on a hunt for some of these other palms.  Bismarckia, Parajubaea Sunkha, Brahea.  I didn’t think the Royals, Baronii, Dypsis Onilahensis would take here, but we’ll add them to the list.  The trachycarpus, livistona will have to wait. I’d like to aquire some 15 gallon and those cost a bit more than seedlings do 😆.  Once again thank you for taking the time and responding.  I’ll post some pictures at the beginning of our summer, middle and end.

[hex984]

To 96720 Mr Royal,  I did not think the Royals were good in cold weather like ours.  We get down to the low 30s, with a high in the 40s.  

[96720]

I’m don’t know about your weather but in Phoenix with lots of heat and it does get cold but usually warms up more than that in the day but they grow great!!!

[hex984]

amazing looking palms, so just roystonea regia?  Thank you for sharing the pictures.  

[Josue Diaz]

3 hours ago, hex984 said:

THANK YOU!!! everyone for the recommendations and advise.  I got hooked on palms and want them all lol 🤪🤣.  So far the young palms I started with kings palms (cunninghamiana) and pygmy date palms, Queens (Syagrus Romanzoffiana) have survived the second winter.  

Definitely going on a hunt for some of these other palms.  Bismarckia, Parajubaea Sunkha, Brahea.  I didn’t think the Royals, Baronii, Dypsis Onilahensis would take here, but we’ll add them to the list.  The trachycarpus, livistona will have to wait. I’d like to aquire some 15 gallon and those cost a bit more than seedlings do 😆.  Once again thank you for taking the time and responding.  I’ll post some pictures at the beginning of our summer, middle and end.

Roystonea might be a tough grow in Livingston, or anywhere in the valley or Northern California for that matter. Onilahensis is a tough grow as well. Tried those several times. 

If you ever get down to Fresno, let me know. I might have some plants for you. There's a really good palm nursery here too. 

JD