Mexico Palm Photos

[ChicagoPalma]

Im heading to Mexico tomorrow and our resort seems likes it has a variety of palms from the pictures. Palms in some of the pictures "Queen palm, Coconut, Mexican fan palm, Windmill, etc. Hoping to find some new palm species we've never seen.

[SeanK]

Interesting. Trachycarpus in a landscape with Queens and Cocos.

[ChicagoPalma]

2 hours ago, SeanK said:

Interesting. Trachycarpus in a landscape with Queens and Cocos.

It happens, you never know.

[jwitt]

2 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

It happens, you never know.

Even in Hawaii!

[ChicagoPalma]

I’m now in Mexico, I landed three hours ago but the internet connection did not want to work. I have some Queen palm seeds I collected from a queen palm who has a bunch of ripe fruit fallen.

I collected 12 seeds in total.

On the way to the resort the driver had to stop because a truck flipped over on its side. Thankfully, the driver in the truck was completely fine.

 

[ChicagoPalma]

Found a Madagascar palm and a couple Bismarck palms during the drive. Many Sabal and thatch palms as well.

[ChicagoPalma]

More trachycarpus and found a giant banana.

[ChicagoPalma]

[Las Palmas Norte]

Trachycarpus in Mexico? ... who'da thunk? By comparison, they always seem to manage so poorly in South Florida.

[Xenon]

Do you have photos of these Mexican Trachycarpus?

The giant bananas are Raveneala madagascariensis aka traveler's palm 

[Foxpalms]

19 hours ago, SeanK said:

Interesting. Trachycarpus in a landscape with Queens and Cocos.

In the canary islands there Trachycarpus growing not far from a lipstick palm and coconuts so its definitely possible in Mexico. @ChicagoPalmaWhat part of Mexico are these palms growing in?

Edited March 23, 2023 by Foxpalms

[Alex High]

13 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Trachycarpus in Mexico? ... who'da thunk? By comparison, they always seem to manage so poorly in South Florida.

 

5 hours ago, Foxpalms said:

In the canary islands there Trachycarpus growing not far from a lipstick palm and coconuts so its definitely possible in Mexico. @ChicagoPalmaWhat part of Mexico are these palms growing in?

Here is a beautiful Trachycarpus in Mexico City. Despite being located in the tropics, the city is at over 7,300 ft elevation, so it has a mild climate not unlike that of the Canary Islands. Trachycarpus does seem to handle hot climates just fine as long as they're dry, it's the extreme humidity that makes them look terrible in places like South Florida.

And 2 miles away are these nice Adonidia merrillii. Very interesting climate!

[ChicagoPalma]

5 hours ago, Foxpalms said:

In the canary islands there Trachycarpus growing not far from a lipstick palm and coconuts so its definitely possible in Mexico. @ChicagoPalmaWhat part of Mexico are these palms growing in?

Cancun, Mexico. I also dig up some bare rooted seedlings. They have way too many of them so they were fine with me doing that. Also got some Queen palms seeds/fruit. A LOT of thatch palms at the resort.

[ChicagoPalma]

I picked the garden view so I get to see what species of palms they grow. They also grow a random mule somewhere. This is a GIANT RESORT, and their are tons of Queen palms and like two large butias just sitting in the shade.

[ChicagoPalma]

12 hours ago, Xenon said:

Do you have photos of these Mexican Trachycarpus?

The giant bananas are Raveneala madagascariensis aka traveler's palm 

Not the traveler palms, it isn’t pictured, but I saw giant bananas beside the road.

[Xenon]

I don't remember seeing any Trachycarpus in that area...just tons of Thrinax 

 

 

[ChicagoPalma]

7 hours ago, Xenon said:

I don't remember seeing any Trachycarpus in that area...just tons of Thrinax 

 

 

There is a lot of cocothrinax But there is windmill palms.

[Las Palmas Norte]

6 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

But there is windmill palms.

Pics por favor

[Foxpalms]

15 hours ago, Alex High said:

 

Here is a beautiful Trachycarpus in Mexico City. Despite being located in the tropics, the city is at over 7,300 ft elevation, so it has a mild climate not unlike that of the Canary Islands. Trachycarpus does seem to handle hot climates just fine as long as they're dry, it's the extreme humidity that makes them look terrible in places like South Florida.

And 2 miles away are these nice Adonidia merrillii. Very interesting climate!

In the canary islands there are a few areas that regularly see high humidity on the west sides of the volcanos. However when theres a heat wave it's coming from the Sahara desert where the humidity is very low. So even those usually more humid places, whilst they regularly see warm humid conditions it isn't common to see southern Florida like humidity there. Another thing to consider is that despite being on the west more humid side of the volcanos, if the wind is coming from the East (Sahara desert) as it travels over the volcanos whilst it also heats up the air it make it even more dry. Personally that's why I think Trachycarpus are fine at sea level even in more humid parts because it's rare to see extreme humidity with high temperatures (90f+). You can see the foehn effect happening there this week during a heatwave, Puerto de la Cruz usually is more humid and 1c cooler during the day that Los cristianos.

[ChicagoPalma]

Forgot to post but look at this giant mule palm!

[Xenon]

1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Forgot to post but look at this giant mule palm!

 

 

That looks more like an oil palm, Elaeis sp. imo

nice Pseudophoenix sargentii in the back 

[ChicagoPalma]

23 minutes ago, Xenon said:

That looks more like an oil palm, Elaeis sp. imo

nice Pseudophoenix sargentii in the back 

Could be an oil palm, also the Florida cherry palms are everywhere, and I’ve seen already two spear pulls on two palms already. The thrinax palms, the smaller ones, have loose spears near the lazy river.

[Little Tex]

2 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Could be an oil palm, also the Florida cherry palms are everywhere, and I’ve seen already two spear pulls on two palms already. The thrinax palms, the smaller ones, have loose spears near the lazy river.

please dont tell me youve been going around yanking spears on palms

[Little Tex]

4 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Forgot to post but look at this giant mule palm!

thats def not a mule fronds too thin, and the boots arent wide enough, also mules arent common in that part of mexico, which is why I also challenge your sighting of a windmill palm as being a thrinax species

[ChicagoPalma]

2 hours ago, Little Tex said:

please dont tell me youve been going around yanking spears on palms

No, but the spear was dead and I just did a light tug, pulled out like ice in an oversized container

[ChicagoPalma]

2 hours ago, Little Tex said:

thats def not a mule fronds too thin, and the boots arent wide enough, also mules arent common in that part of mexico, which is why I also challenge your sighting of a windmill palm as being a thrinax species

At first I thought there was a bunch of windmills but there are only mostly thrinax species. There are only like a couple windmill palms,  I realized after a day it’s mostly thrinax palms. My palm recognization skills are not so good.

[ChicagoPalma]

3 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

No, but the spear was dead and I just did a light tug, pulled out like ice in an oversized container

I only tugged on one, the rest there was poorly payed Mexican landscapers checking spears on palms that look half dead.

[ChicagoPalma]

2 hours ago, Little Tex said:

please dont tell me youve been going around yanking spears on palms

I told a staff member when the spear pulled. The guy said they had removed a palm from severe spear pull.

[Little Tex]

1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said:

I only tugged on one, the rest there was poorly payed Mexican landscapers checking spears on palms that look half dead.

lol your in mexico did you expect them to be american

[ChicagoPalma]

2 hours ago, Little Tex said:

lol your in mexico did you expect them to be american

They have good landscaping for a Mexican resort.

[Little Tex]

12 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

They have good landscaping for a Mexican resort.

I’m not sure what your insinuating, Mexicans can’t be good landscapers? Im confused…

[ChicagoPalma]

11 hours ago, Little Tex said:

I’m not sure what your insinuating, Mexicans can’t be good landscapers? Im confused…

So this resort has been open for a while and its original landscapers were good. But nowadays the workers at the resort are poorly payed, 7 bucks a day. Eventually some of the landscapers decided to quit because of low pay, and the new landscapers kinda sucked, so they did nothing except try to keep everything how it was. They removed a dead palm by my area overnight one-two days ago.

[Little Tex]

16 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

So this resort has been open for a while and its original landscapers were good. But nowadays the workers at the resort are poorly payed, 7 bucks a day. Eventually some of the landscapers decided to quit because of low pay, and the new landscapers kinda sucked, so they did nothing except try to keep everything how it was. They removed a dead palm by my area overnight one-two days ago.

You didnt answer my question but ok, who told you this?

[ChicagoPalma]

1 hour ago, Little Tex said:

You didnt answer my question but ok, who told you this?

Some of the workers and some people who were there before us, the workers get payed very low so everyone tips them a buck or two.

[SeanK]

18 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

At first I thought there was a bunch of windmills but there are only mostly thrinax species. There are only like a couple windmill palms,  I realized after a day it’s mostly thrinax palms. My palm recognization skills are not so good.

I've seen some T.radiata that looked a lot like Trachycarpus on first glance. A second look can clear up confusion.

[Foxpalms]

10 minutes ago, SeanK said:

I've seen some T.radiata that looked a lot like Trachycarpus on first glance. A second look can clear up confusion.

Probably t.radiata, next week however I will try and photograph some Trachycarpus near coconuts.

[Las Palmas Norte]

1 minute ago, Foxpalms said:

Probably t.radiata, next week however I will try and photograph some Trachycarpus near coconuts.

Near the coconuts or the coconut trees?

[Foxpalms]

1 minute ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Near the coconuts or the coconut trees?

Near some cocos nucifera. Also not in Mexico somewhere else. There's a few Trachycarpus around the island so I will try a take pictures of some in difference koppen climates.

[Xenon]

8 minutes ago, Foxpalms said:

Near some cocos nucifera. Also not in Mexico somewhere else. There's a few Trachycarpus around the island so I will try a take pictures of some in difference koppen climates.

Something impressive would be thriving coconuts next to thriving Trachycarpus in a fully 100% tropical environment like Cancun 

[Foxpalms]

1 hour ago, Xenon said:

Something impressive would be thriving coconuts next to thriving Trachycarpus in a fully 100% tropical environment like Cancun 

Not fully tropical like Cancun but zone 12b with a record low of 8c. A hot semi arid climate bordering on a tropical wet and dry climate with 16 inches of rain annually. 72f highs in the winter with lows of 61f.  85f highs during the summer with lows of 75f. Humidity is pretty high throughout the year however during heatwaves because of foehn effect and the fact the air mass is coming from the desert, the combination of very hot temperatures and high humidity is rare. The average annual humidity is 74% however some websites listed it as high as 87%. Unfortunately one of those places with no official weather stations so the data is a bit dodgy as it's been taken from nearby but probably higher elevation slightly cooler areas. I will also try and take photos of some in a hot dessert climate if I come across some. What would be impressive would be Trachycarpus growing in Jazan Saudi Arabia, where the average daily heat index during the summer is 136f due to dessert heat but it also having very high humidity.