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Cold hardy windbreak palms

Jerrrod

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Hi guys, I was looking through a few of the forums and saw one about palms as a windbreak. Unfortunately it was for California, I remember the Santa Anas. I'm looking for outside right now and there's a strong hot wind coming from the west. What kinds of palms, if any, would work? I'm thinking large and fast growing clumpers.

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Palms generally have developed crowns that permit winds to pass thru them. Fast growing, large, clumping, windbreak palms? That's a tall order.

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Sabal spp, esp large Sabals like causiarum, domingensis, maritima. I've have a double row of Sabals, i.e., the world famous Sabal Row, that I grew from seed and planted on the edge of the vacant lot to the east of us in 2009/10. Those palms are now mature, 25-30' tall and shielded our house from Hurricanes Irma in 2017 and Ian, cat. 4/5, 178 mph gusts in the eyewall, in 2022. Ian broke some fronds but the Sabals never budged. You can't do better than that. Sabals love heat so hot Santa Ana won't faze them. See photos below

Sabal Row & our cat Lizzie, Cape Coral, FL, Jan. 2022

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Just noticed you are in z7b. That really complicates things. Do your lows ever fall below 10F? 15? I've read, I think, that a few causiarum survived the great TX freeze of 2021. Certainly, some Sabal mexicana did. They grow larger than the punier Sabal palmetto. Not sure about the ultimate cold hardiness of domingensis and maritima.

I can think of no clustering trunking palmate palms that survive 7b. Pinnate palms are definitely out.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Jerrrod Enthusiast

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It has gotten that cold, only a matter of hours though. Then it usually gets back into at least the 20's, if not higher. Maybe I was thinking Sonoran, I I really like the blue color.

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13 minutes ago, Jerrrod said:

It has gotten that cold, only a matter of hours though. Then it usually gets back into at least the 20's, if not higher. Maybe I was thinking Sonoran, I I really like the blue color.

Don't lose sight of concentrating on the basic cold hardy palms for your area.

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), etonia (1) louisiana(4), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  tamaulipas (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(1+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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@Allen oh don't worry, I'm trying to fill up 3 acres with palms.

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arborvitae green giant is your friend in this case

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), etonia (1) louisiana(4), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  tamaulipas (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(1+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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I've tried those at least 5 times and they all turned reddish brown and died.

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