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Hi all,

I have a couple of questions about a recently purchased Phoenix Roebelenii palm I'm currently growing outside in a pot.

Question 1: Should I be keeping the palm in full shade? Max temperatures here are around 25 degrees Celsius in the Spring and 38 degrees Celsius in the summer. The palm is currently in partial shade and seems to be doing okay.  Should I move it to a fully shaded location at some stage, and if so, when?

Question 2: How cold hardy is the Phoenix Roebelenii? Winter temperatures here occasionally drop to around -3 degrees Celsius and it snows lightly once or twice a year. Can I keep the palm outside in a pot all year round if I protect the leaves with a frost sheet in the winter?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Daniel

 

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18 minutes ago, Daniel23 said:

Hi all,

I have a couple of questions about a recently purchased Phoenix Roebelenii palm that I'm currently growing outside in a pot.

Question 1: Should I be keeping the palm in full shade? Max temperatures here in central Japan are around 25 degrees Celsius in the Spring and 38 degrees Celsius in the summer. The palm is currently in partial shade and seems to be doing okay.  Should I move it to a fully shaded location at some stage, and if so, when?

Question 2: How cold hardy is the Phoenix Roebelenii? Winter temperatures here occasionally drop to around -3 degrees Celsius and it snows lightly once or twice a year. Can I keep the palm outside in a pot all year round if I protect the leaves with a frost sheet in the winter?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Daniel

 

if it only gets to -3 then it should be fine in a pot or in the ground, this palm can take full sun easily but needs water, and acclimaiton

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Lucas

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keep it in full sun, it likes sun. and i think its hardy to like -3 celcius i think

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They look fantastic in shade. I have several and my shaded ones far exceed the appearance of my full sun ones. Much fuller and greener. The species does tolerate full sun though and needs lots of water. A potted one is going to be slightly less cold tolerant in the winter than a ground planted one because the soil temperature in a pot is mush less stable than the ground. 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

They look fantastic in shade. I have several and my shaded ones far exceed the appearance of my full sun ones. Much fuller and greener. The species does tolerate full sun though and needs lots of water. A potted one is going to be slightly less cold tolerant in the winter than a ground planted one because the soil temperature in a pot is mush less stable than the ground. 

I agree with Jim i L  A, problem here would be the exposure of the roots to air temps.  This is not something a plant has to cope with in nature. Better insulate pot walls permanently.

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I have several Phoenix Roboellini's and some are in full sun and others are in more shade, the ones in full sun seem to thrive more but I also fertilize them 3-4 times a year. They can tolerate freezing temps for a brief time but the fronds will turn brown and once you get back into growing season make sure to fertilize.  

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I have a very large potted one that stays in full sun and gets osmocote fertilizer and lots of water.  It is a perfect green color that way

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Just a few pics of my full shade ones. 
 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

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4 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Just a few pics of my full shade ones. 
 

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Extra droopy, i love it.

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Thanks for the advice everyone!

 

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Here's a pic of my potted pygmy in full sun just for reference.  You can walk under it.

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Thanks,  Allen.  It looks great!

What do you do in the winter to protect it?

It looks like it gets pretty cold where you are!

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