Ailanthus altissima

[amh]

Is this tree of heaven, Ailanthus altissima, or is it something else?

Edited April 12, 2023 by amh

[Silas_Sancona]

38 minutes ago, amh said:

Is this tree of heaven, Ailanthus altissima, or is it something else?

If the foliage stinks like spoiled peanut butter,  than possibly.. ( ...it really stinks, lol )  It could also be one of your native Rhus ( Sumacs ), Juglans, or something in the Pea family ...like False Indigo, Amorpha ( Though the leaves look a little wide -to my eyes- to be that )

[amh]

16 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

If the foliage stinks like spoiled peanut butter,  than possibly.. ( ...it really stinks, lol )  It could also be one of your native Rhus ( Sumacs ), Juglans, or something in the Pea family ...like False Indigo, Amorpha ( Though the leaves look a little wide -to my eyes- to be that )

I'll have to check for a stench. The plants don't look quite right to me for Ailanthus altissima, but I have never seen flowers and the fall color is drab. I have native sumacs in the yard, but they look very different. I'll try to get photos of the larger plants.

[amh]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

If the foliage stinks like spoiled peanut butter,  than possibly.. ( ...it really stinks, lol )  It could also be one of your native Rhus ( Sumacs ), Juglans, or something in the Pea family ...like False Indigo, Amorpha ( Though the leaves look a little wide -to my eyes- to be that )

There is no smell at all. Here is a shot of a taller plant and a close up of the bark. The plant is about 13 ft tall and growing in between some hackberrys.

I've never seen fruit or flowers. The only native that looks similar, is styphnolobium affine, but the leaves look wrong to me.

 

[aabell]

In your area, maybe Juglans microcarpa?  Not one I'm real familiar with but it does look like something in that family. Although black walnut at least has a pretty pungent smell as well. Leaflet shape does not match Ailanthus. 

Edited April 14, 2023 by aabell

[amh]

2 hours ago, aabell said:

In your area, maybe Juglans microcarpa?  Not one I'm real familiar with but it does look like something in that family. Although black walnut at least has a pretty pungent smell as well. Leaflet shape does not match Ailanthus. 

It's not a juglans; the leaves are very smooth, and there is no scent. I do find walnuts and pecans sprouting in my yard, so I am used to those.

I have about 20 of these mystery plants growing in a heavily shaded woods, but they never flower and I cant find the seed source. Whatever they are,they are hardy to 0F or colder

[amh]

I have still not identified this plant, is it possibly a Pistacia?