Another PNW goner

[NWpalms@206]

What was once maybe the largest Palmetto in the PNW, sadly after the winter of 21 began declining, and today I see the crown is gone and possibly trunk cut to try and save. Too bad after making to such a size. This is in West Seattle. 

[ShadyDan]

Very sad. What a crap 2 winters in a row its been for us. Kind of discouraging with all the palm carnage around.

 

[Chester B]

That blows.  Do you know how long it had been there for?  I'm assuming it was planted with a fair amount of trunk?

The one down in Silverton is easily that height, but so much fatter.  I'm not convinced its palmetto though.  They did tell me I think it was back in 2009 it got completely defoliated but completely regrew its full crown that summer.

Have you heard at all about how the causiarum is doing up there in Seattle after this winter?

[matthedlund]

On 4/21/2023 at 9:56 AM, Chester B said:

That blows.  Do you know how long it had been there for?  I'm assuming it was planted with a fair amount of trunk?

The one down in Silverton is easily that height, but so much fatter.  I'm not convinced its palmetto though.  They did tell me I think it was back in 2009 it got completely defoliated but completely regrew its full crown that summer.

Have you heard at all about how the causiarum is doing up there in Seattle after this winter?

I forget his name, but this house is owned by the proprietor of L&B Nursery (wholesale). He told me he brought it in large just a few years ago. I don't recall it looking great last summer...

I'm not sure if it's the Sabal causarium you're referring to, but the one in West Seattle on Beach Drive looks great. It's probably 6 feet tall overall (3 feet of trunk) and very healthy looking. I can snap a pic tomorrow if I remember.

[Chester B]

It's the one in this thread.  FIrst photo.

 

[SeanK]

On 4/21/2023 at 12:56 PM, Chester B said:

That blows.  Do you know how long it had been there for?  I'm assuming it was planted with a fair amount of trunk?

The one down in Silverton is easily that height, but so much fatter.  I'm not convinced its palmetto though.  They did tell me I think it was back in 2009 it got completely defoliated but completely regrew its full crown that summer.

Have you heard at all about how the causiarum is doing up there in Seattle after this winter?

S.palmetto does not grow a full crown in a year, even in Florida. I imagine cooler temps for air and soil slow them down in the PNW.

[Chester B]

8 hours ago, SeanK said:

S.palmetto does not grow a full crown in a year, even in Florida. I imagine cooler temps for air and soil slow them down in the PNW.

Good point.  What I was told that was that it completely defoliated and grew back so fast "it seemed like it liked it".  So further evidence to me that it is not a palmetto.

[NWpalms@206]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:16 PM, matthedlund said:

I forget his name, but this house is owned by the proprietor of L&B Nursery (wholesale). He told me he brought it in large just a few years ago. I don't recall it looking great last summer...

I'm not sure if it's the Sabal causarium you're referring to, but the one in West Seattle on Beach Drive looks great. It's probably 6 feet tall overall (3 feet of trunk) and very healthy looking. I can snap a pic tomorrow if I remember.

I had questioned whether it was brought in large or grown there (had my doubts)... sounds like it didnt make it all that long here. Hes got a nice sabal minor out by the sidewalk too. Where about in west seattle is that causiarum? id love to drive by and see in person!

Edited April 24, 2023 by NWpalms@206

[NWpalms@206]

On 4/21/2023 at 9:56 AM, Chester B said:

That blows.  Do you know how long it had been there for?  I'm assuming it was planted with a fair amount of trunk?

The one down in Silverton is easily that height, but so much fatter.  I'm not convinced its palmetto though.  They did tell me I think it was back in 2009 it got completely defoliated but completely regrew its full crown that summer.

Have you heard at all about how the causiarum is doing up there in Seattle after this winter?

Sounds like it was brought in as large palm, which makes more sense... that would take decades to grow that size here and not likely to survive the bad winters we get. I havent seen the Causiarum in person but plan to soon.

[Chester B]

2401 W Armour St, Seattle, WA 98199

The streetview was updated last summer.  The place looks fantastic.  And it's in Magnolia not West Seattle.

https://goo.gl/maps/ynwgjiTFkHt2nMiz7

 

[matthedlund]

1 hour ago, NWpalms@206 said:

Sounds like it was brought in as large palm, which makes more sense... that would take decades to grow that size here and not likely to survive the bad winters we get. I havent seen the Causiarum in person but plan to soon.

The West Seattle one is at 4640 Beach Dr SW.  

[Chester B]

That whole row of houses is all palms.  Pretty cool.

[Las Palmas Norte]

5 hours ago, Chester B said:

2401 W Armour St, Seattle, WA 98199

The streetview was updated last summer.  The place looks fantastic.  And it's in Magnolia not West Seattle.

https://goo.gl/maps/ynwgjiTFkHt2nMiz7

 

It looks like there's some interesting palms behind the fence in that yard too.

[Chester B]

9 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

It looks like there's some interesting palms behind the fence in that yard too.

Jubea, Butia, I think a Sabal.  That guy had a trunking Brahea edulis too.

[Las Palmas Norte]

17 hours ago, Chester B said:

That guy had a trunking Brahea edulis too.

Jeff in Victoria, BC (before he moved) had one too.

 

[Little Tex]

5 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Jeff in Victoria, BC (before he moved) had one too.

 

Isn’t that an armata?

[Foxpalms]

7 minutes ago, Little Tex said:

Isn’t that an armata?

Thats what I was thinking. Looks like armata.

[Las Palmas Norte]

@Little Tex and @FoxpalmsYes it is B. armata. For some reason I had Brahea on my mind and not the species.