Circunference of the trunks of Butia eriospatha and Butia eriospatha x Jubaea chilensis.

[Alberto]

Years ago I crossed a Butia eriospatha with fat trunk of my garden with pollen of Jubaea chilensis that came from one of the palms from Dick Douglas garden. Today I measured the trunks of this offspring of two palms that were properly planted in the garden. I also measured the base of the trunk of a really fat B. eriospatha growing in my mother garden. I also measured the trunk of my B. eriospatha that I crossed with Jubaea. It' s difficult to find info about Jubaea normal trunks , but I found that extreme fat trunk Jubaea measured can be 500 cm ( 196.85 inches)....             1) First 3 pics: trunk of my mother Butia eriospatha measured close to ground level where it's extremely fat: 376 cm ( 148 inches)                                             2) Last 2 pics: Trunk of the "mother" of my hybrids, the B. eriospatha growing here in the garden: 262 cm (103.15 inches)                                                                                         I AM VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE CIRCUNFERENCE OF THE TRUNKS OF THE OTHER BUTIA HYBRIDS IN CULTIVATION! Pleasure comment about this. Measure your palms, please!

[Alberto]

The trunks of both the hybrids of B. eriospatha x Jubaea planted out in the garden 1) First  pic, this has the less fat trunk : 309 cm (121.65 inches)        2) Second 4 pics of the fattest trunk: 333 cm (131.3 inches)               

 

 

 

 

 

[Alberto]

I ' d like to compare the influence of Butia eriospatha genes on the girth of my palms, comparing them with similar hybrids like B. odorata x Jubaea, (B. odorata x Jubaea) x Jubaea, Jubaea x B. odorata, B. yatay x Jubaea, Queen x Jubaea and also pure Jubaea chilensis, etc, etc.... 

[Zeeth]

Beautiful palms! The first photo of the hybrid almost reminds me of a CIDP.

[Alberto]

31 minutes ago, Zeeth said:

Beautiful palms! The first photo of the hybrid almost reminds me of a CIDP.

Same thoughts! 😀

[Alberto]

Ops, correction: CIRCUMFERENCE , and not circunference ( like Portuguese "circunferência")

[Alberto]

Nobody has mature Jubaea hybrids?  🤔😃

[Alberto]

 First pic- This is the base of the trunk of the really fat Butia eriospatha growing in my mother' s garden.  Second pic- This is another " normal" butia eriosp. growing in the same garden.

[Axel Amsterdam]

I only have a picture of a beautiful eriospatha in Coimbra Portugal

[Axel Amsterdam]

and this one. Eriospatha in general seems scarce in Europe, 

[Alberto]

51 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

and this one. Eriospatha in general seems scarce in Europe, 

...and probably are the cold hardiest because they grow on the colder tablelands ( Butia odorata grows at lower altitudes and sometimes close to the sea, that are places with a lot warmer summer and are generally also not so cold in winter)

[Alberto]

I'm very curious about the circumference ( girth) of the trunks of the other Butia hybrids in cultivation. I'd like to compare the influence of the Butia eriospatha genes on the girth of my palms, comparing them with similar hybrids like B. odorata x Jubaea, (B. odorata x Jubaea) x Jubaea, Jubaea x B. odorata, B. yatay x Jubaea, Queen x Jubaea and also pure Jubaea chilensis, etc, etc....  Please can you help me? Thanks!

[swolf]

No circumference data from my solo efforts today, but here’s a quick tape measure photo showing the approximate diameter of a Jubaea x Butia F1 I have.  I may have another that is slightly fatter.  Multiplying the diameter by Pi doesn’t suggest the same girth as your Butia Eriospatha crosses though 🤔.   Size 10 1/2 shoe for scale.

[swolf]

Sorry for the blurry photo but tape measure is locked on the 3 ft. mark, so maybe 34” diameter?  Easier and accurate stats will come once all the lower boots naturally shed.