Phoenix hanceana Naudin or P. loureiroi

[mydateplams]

So being a palm nut I dug out what I was told is a Phoenix hanceana Naudi. The owner is a member of the palm society and said he bought it 10 years ago from a 5gal pot at a meeting. 

Fronds are about 10-11ft with about 3ft of trunk about 200 pounds.

It has suckers

 

 

Should grow in to something like this.

Edited June 20, 2023 by mydateplams

[Pal Meir]

For comparison pics of Ph loureiroi in habitat:

 

[Phoenikakias]

As far as I am aware of, Kew in the description of the sp P loureiroi writes, that the fronds are up to 2 m (6'6.74'') long.  Your plant has by far longer fronds.  Here is my own plant supposed to be P hanceana grown from seed bought from the 'Seed Lady' I.H.

[Ubuwuntu]

On 6/20/2023 at 8:55 PM, mydateplams said:

So being a palm nut I dug out what I was told is a Phoenix hanceana Naudi. The owner is a member of the palm society and said he bought it 10 years ago from a 5gal pot at a meeting. 

Fronds are about 10-11ft with about 3ft of trunk about 200 pounds.

It has suckers

 

 

The palm looks beautiful! I don't have enough experience with the Loureiroi complex to really appreciate its characters though, it looks like an even greener small and clumping canariensis haha. I would love to see photos up close of the base of the raquis with the acantophylls, and the leaflets if you can share!

 

On 6/20/2023 at 8:55 PM, mydateplams said:

 

And do you know where this photos is from? I'd never seen so many planted together.

[mydateplams]

Here it is moved

 

Look at the thorn length 9in. I had one of these go through my leather gloves and in to my knuckle. 

 

The fronds are 8ft-10ft 

 

Here are the offshoots I cut off.

[mydateplams]

[mydateplams]

Phoenix hanceana Naudin var. formosana Beccari

 

[mydateplams]

Taiwan date palm

[Phoenikakias]

Here are pictures of the loureiroi population in Cat Ba island off the coast of Vietnam. Pictures collected from f/b, where they had been initially posted by visitors of the island. In present case spines look correct reg shape and length but way too robust, as one should expect from a plant of 11 ft long fronds.  Spines on my specimen, which is around 30 y.o., are long, thin and flexible. And I can still remove old fronds with only a good secateur just like I handle roebelenii. No need for a saw. This is a rather practical mean of measuring plant's girth.

[mydateplams]

I have four offshoots I would sell or trade to anyone in CA around the palm springs area.