angel trumpet

[flplantguy]

Mine is a mess too, they all start that way its all good!  If you can give them plenty of water they can do either spot i think but close to the tree is better if ypunhave dry soil and cannot irrigate heavily. Mine in sand was daily drip between rains to keep it happy.

The photo has my old garden in largo after hurricane Irma came through. The angels trumpet is still standing on the top right of the photo above the rubber vine (purple flowers) and was planted with almost all day sun. Its the only photo i have now but kind of shows how it was grown. Had companions and competition and full sun and still did ok. It was not spectacular as it aged though and does need to be cut back if a freeze never hits it. This one was frozen a bit that january and came right back mostly with minimal damage.  They are fast growing so if you mess up just move it or take a cutting or two.

Your photo looks like dry soil so water may be an issue, but if moisture is below the surface that helps. My sand was like that and helped keep it going. Now i wouldnt dare plant one without a really good irrigation system in the sand that drains in seconds.

(The whole yard looked like that after irma but the damage was really minimal after they came back)

[flplantguy]

Forgot to mention the pink one on the left that came down was not staked, the other was. It also came back and rooted back in and had half day sun with larger leaves and flowers.

[Than]

12 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Mine were doing the same so I moved them into shade spot and the pot is tiny so the soil was drying out so quick and some leaves fell off

did that work?

[iDesign]

12 hours ago, ZPalms said:

I have this spot next to this tree I thought about but I think it would be weird to put it in that spot since the spot around the tree needs work, I also have this open area… whatever you guys suggest, would be appreciated.

Unlike palms, angel trumpets can stay in a pot indefinitely… so maybe you could keep it in a pot this year and see how it does? That will give you the option of testing out locations. You can also use it as temporary shade for other plants. Keeping it potted would also make it possible to bring it inside if there’s a freeze. I’m not sure if your zone is warm enough to survive year round?

Or just plant it, and then dig it up if the spot doesn’t work out. I got my first “Brug” by digging it out of a friend’s yard and it was easy (note: I also didn’t have any negative physical effects).  Some dedicated growers dig their “brugs” out each Fall, though it’s more common to keep them in pots… or take cuttings. Again, I’m just mentioning since I don’t know minimum zone for these. If it can live outside year round in your area, even better! Regardless, don’t stress too much about placement since they can be moved if needed.

Personally I think it could look nice in any of the locations you circled. Maybe even a row of them. Yellow,, white and pink are most common… followed by peach. Another inspirational photo (not mine).

 

[ZPalms]

On 7/28/2023 at 1:56 AM, ego said:

did that work?

It did sort of but I think it wants a bigger pot or to be let loose in the ground

[ZPalms]

On 7/28/2023 at 2:23 AM, iDesign said:

Unlike palms, angel trumpets can stay in a pot indefinitely… so maybe you could keep it in a pot this year and see how it does? That will give you the option of testing out locations. You can also use it as temporary shade for other plants. Keeping it potted would also make it possible to bring it inside if there’s a freeze. I’m not sure if your zone is warm enough to survive year round?

Or just plant it, and then dig it up if the spot doesn’t work out. I got my first “Brug” by digging it out of a friend’s yard and it was easy (note: I also didn’t have any negative physical effects).  Some dedicated growers dig their “brugs” out each Fall, though it’s more common to keep them in pots… or take cuttings. Again, I’m just mentioning since I don’t know minimum zone for these. If it can live outside year round in your area, even better! Regardless, don’t stress too much about placement since they can be moved if needed.

Personally I think it could look nice in any of the locations you circled. Maybe even a row of them. Yellow,, white and pink are most common… followed by peach. Another inspirational photo (not mine).

 

I think they do come back to an extent, I've seen the yellow ones come back every year in somebody yard, I'd probably take a cutting just for winter insurance 😂

[ZPalms]

On 7/27/2023 at 2:35 PM, flplantguy said:

Mine is a mess too, they all start that way its all good!  If you can give them plenty of water they can do either spot i think but close to the tree is better if ypunhave dry soil and cannot irrigate heavily. Mine in sand was daily drip between rains to keep it happy.

The photo has my old garden in largo after hurricane Irma came through. The angels trumpet is still standing on the top right of the photo above the rubber vine (purple flowers) and was planted with almost all day sun. Its the only photo i have now but kind of shows how it was grown. Had companions and competition and full sun and still did ok. It was not spectacular as it aged though and does need to be cut back if a freeze never hits it. This one was frozen a bit that january and came right back mostly with minimal damage.  They are fast growing so if you mess up just move it or take a cutting or two.

Your photo looks like dry soil so water may be an issue, but if moisture is below the surface that helps. My sand was like that and helped keep it going. Now i wouldnt dare plant one without a really good irrigation system in the sand that drains in seconds.

(The whole yard looked like that after irma but the damage was really minimal after they came back)

I'd like to put irrigation down but I don't understand what I need for it and how it works and how to lay it, That's a wild mess from that storm but that's really neat the trumpets made it through 🤠 I might even try to dig a quick hole today and plant it, I just don't know if by the tree would be nice because if it starts growing into the canopy of the tree or would it fit the look I want

[iDesign]

1 hour ago, ZPalms said:

I think they do come back to an extent, I've seen the yellow ones come back every year in somebody yard, I'd probably take a cutting just for winter insurance 😂

Good plan. Sounds like you’re in a zone that could go either way. For fastest growth, take your cutting “above the Y”. Also note that a “cutting” can be as tall as you’d like (even a huge branch).

Sounds like it might not be needed if a neighbor has one come back each year. Out of curiosity I checked my brug forum and the zone 7/8 areas are debatable whether they can survive the winter. Here are a few pieces of advice I copied for you (from brug growers in cooler areas)…

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With all the discussions about cutting plants back and storing them dormant, I worry that some people in warmer locations feel that this is what they also have to do.  Depending on where you live, you may not need to.  This is done in areas where the winters get too cold for the plants to survive outside.  If you live in a zone where you only occasionally get a frost (temp around 32 degrees) and if you do it is only for a night or so at a time, you can get by by just covering up your plant with a bed sheet or blanket (don't use plastic, that doesn't work and will transfer the frost to your plant).  If you live in an area where your night time temps might stay in the high 20's for a short amount of time, you can even wrap incandescent lights (the old big bulbed Christmas lights have a purpose again!) around your plant and cover it up, the bulbs will throw some heat to keep the plant cozy.  If you live in an area where your temps are going to be in the 20's/low 30's for a length of time, you could cut your plant back to a height you want to mulch over and then mulch it well (don't use unshredded leaves to mulch with, they mat down and can keep things too wet). Worse thing that will happen in this case is you might lose what is above ground but it will regrow from the roots and with an established rootball and good fertilization, it'll come back fast and furious.

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I guess it depends on how deeply the ground freezes. I've heard of some people keeping them inground in zone 7a with just mulching. I've never had one survive and over the years have tried just about every part of the yard including next to the foundation.  They never come back for me and I'm in 7a.

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I’m in zone 8 b. I just take some cuttings. I don’t cut to the ground. I don’t see any reason to. If our winter gets really bad and they look like they are going to die back then maybe I’ll cut them. Last year was a mild winter. Many didn’t even lose there leaves. Had several nights of 28-32 for a few hours. 
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I live in SC 8b. I cut mine to the ground. Fertilize and put several bags of mulch over them. The cut branches I take in garage and I place in water to re-root. My plants are 12 feet tall.

 

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Sounds like taking a cutting, mulching and wrapping if an abnormally cold freeze should be fine… just passing along the info I read. I also know some varieties are more hardy than others.  Happy planting!

[ZPalms]

15 minutes ago, iDesign said:

Good plan. Sounds like you’re in a zone that could go either way. For fastest growth, take your cutting “above the Y”. Also note that a “cutting” can be as tall as you’d like (even a huge branch).

Sounds like it might not be needed if a neighbor has one come back each year. Out of curiosity I checked my brug forum and the zone 7/8 areas are debatable whether they can survive the winter. Here are a few pieces of advice I copied for you (from brug growers in cooler areas)…

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With all the discussions about cutting plants back and storing them dormant, I worry that some people in warmer locations feel that this is what they also have to do.  Depending on where you live, you may not need to.  This is done in areas where the winters get too cold for the plants to survive outside.  If you live in a zone where you only occasionally get a frost (temp around 32 degrees) and if you do it is only for a night or so at a time, you can get by by just covering up your plant with a bed sheet or blanket (don't use plastic, that doesn't work and will transfer the frost to your plant).  If you live in an area where your night time temps might stay in the high 20's for a short amount of time, you can even wrap incandescent lights (the old big bulbed Christmas lights have a purpose again!) around your plant and cover it up, the bulbs will throw some heat to keep the plant cozy.  If you live in an area where your temps are going to be in the 20's/low 30's for a length of time, you could cut your plant back to a height you want to mulch over and then mulch it well (don't use unshredded leaves to mulch with, they mat down and can keep things too wet). Worse thing that will happen in this case is you might lose what is above ground but it will regrow from the roots and with an established rootball and good fertilization, it'll come back fast and furious.

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I guess it depends on how deeply the ground freezes. I've heard of some people keeping them inground in zone 7a with just mulching. I've never had one survive and over the years have tried just about every part of the yard including next to the foundation.  They never come back for me and I'm in 7a.

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I’m in zone 8 b. I just take some cuttings. I don’t cut to the ground. I don’t see any reason to. If our winter gets really bad and they look like they are going to die back then maybe I’ll cut them. Last year was a mild winter. Many didn’t even lose there leaves. Had several nights of 28-32 for a few hours. 
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I live in SC 8b. I cut mine to the ground. Fertilize and put several bags of mulch over them. The cut branches I take in garage and I place in water to re-root. My plants are 12 feet tall.

 

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Sounds like taking a cutting, mulching and wrapping if an abnormally cold freeze should be fine… just passing along the info I read. I also know some varieties are more hardy than others.  Happy planting!

This is great information thanks! I know the one at that house I see is next to a fence and also near the road If I can remember correctly so it might also have a microclimate as well, I should probably see if its still there because I know last winter it got really cold last winter

 

 

 

 

 

[ZPalms]

This is my little angel trumpet, It's wanting to be in the ground sooooo bad

also my sad norfolk pine, terracotta pots I've learned aren't great for norfolk pines if I suck at watering indoors and outdoors 😂

[ZPalms]

I'm assuming its ok to plant these near a banana tree that I Intend to harvest from?