Dypsis utilising or dypsis crinata

[happypalms]

Not sure I purchased this palm as dypsis utilis it’s around 15 years old it has tolerated cold temperatures down to 2 degrees and dry conditions being in a dry spot in my garden it has missed out on the watering a pretty tough palm well worth growing the new leaf is almost liver colour all round winner 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[happypalms]

Thanks Siri for the auto correct spelling utilising 

[Tracy]

8 hours ago, happypalms said:

this palm as dypsis utilis it’s around 15 years old it has tolerated cold temperatures down to 2 degrees and dry conditions being in a dry spot in my garden it has missed out on the watering a pretty tough palm well worth growing the new leaf is almost liver colour all round winner 

Has yours pushed out a flower spathe yet?  I am growing what I acquired as Vonitra crinita (formerly Dypsis and before that Vonitra).  First photo is sometime after planting it in 2016, and the other three photos are from Spring of 2023.  It has put on some size and went from a single trunk to four trunks, where it has remained stable.  Still pushes the salmon to liver color leaves but no sign yet of a flower spathe.  Meanwhile, I planted a form of Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis or hybrid adjacent to it which has been flowering for a couple of years and is similar in stature today.  Since your specimen has over a decade in age compared to mine, I am really curious about the flowering status.

[realarch]

Tracy, you beat me to it. I was going to add that Richard also might add Dypsis fibrosa as a possible ID, but a quick look at reference material, I now know of the reclassification into the Vonitra group. Where have I been?

Mine bifurcated at an early age and is one hairy mother. It’s also gotten much larger than expected and flowers regularly, but I haven’t noticed any seeds amongst all that piassava. (new word for me

Tim)

[happypalms]

12 hours ago, Tracy said:

Has yours pushed out a flower spathe yet?  I am growing what I acquired as Vonitra crinita (formerly Dypsis and before that Vonitra).  First photo is sometime after planting it in 2016, and the other three photos are from Spring of 2023.  It has put on some size and went from a single trunk to four trunks, where it has remained stable.  Still pushes the salmon to liver color leaves but no sign yet of a flower spathe.  Meanwhile, I planted a form of Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis or hybrid adjacent to it which has been flowering for a couple of years and is similar in stature today.  Since your specimen has over a decade in age compared to mine, I am really curious about the flowering status.

Thanks for the palm Identification it has the liver colour leaf that is in your photo so crinata for now will do me fine once again thank you 

[Tracy]

23 hours ago, realarch said:

Tracy, you beat me to it. I was going to add that Richard also might add Dypsis fibrosa as a possible ID, but a quick look at reference material, I now know of the reclassification into the Vonitra group. Where have I been?

Mine bifurcated at an early age and is one hairy mother. It’s also gotten much larger than expected and flowers regularly, but I haven’t noticed any seeds amongst all that piassava. (new word for me

Tim)

I probably saw yours but can't recall it specifically, as I was a bit overwhelmed with everything when Dana and I visited.  I do recall seeing some Vonitra at Bill Austin's that I believe either Bill or Jeff id'd as Vonitra crinita.  They had more girth than mine have, but so many things have a different look here.  I was looking at my Chrysalidocarpus basilongus which is opening a new leaf right now, and remember how much thicker the trunk was on yours and all others I saw on the Hilo side of the island.  Clearly climate plays into how these grow.  Len told me a while back that mine could be either V utilis or fibrosus, but until it flowers and I have something to compare on that front, I've just stuck with the original name it came with.

Next time yours is in flower please share some photos.  I'll be interested to compare what I get if and when it ever happens.  Same photo request to our friend Happypalms in New South Wales.

[happypalms]

13 hours ago, Tracy said:

I probably saw yours but can't recall it specifically, as I was a bit overwhelmed with everything when Dana and I visited.  I do recall seeing some Vonitra at Bill Austin's that I believe either Bill or Jeff id'd as Vonitra crinita.  They had more girth than mine have, but so many things have a different look here.  I was looking at my Chrysalidocarpus basilongus which is opening a new leaf right now, and remember how much thicker the trunk was on yours and all others I saw on the Hilo side of the island.  Clearly climate plays into how these grow.  Len told me a while back that mine could be either V utilis or fibrosus, but until it flowers and I have something to compare on that front, I've just stuck with the original name it came with.

Next time yours is in flower please share some photos.  I'll be interested to compare what I get if and when it ever happens.  Same photo request to our friend Happypalms in New South Wales.

When it does flower in sunny warm Australia I shall be more than happy to post the photo my garden is 23 years old so more surprises to come in the future.