Chambeyronia macrocarpa

[JLM]

Yes, Im wanting to try these and honestly, this is kind of my dream palm. Would be quite the show stopper in the front yard, hell i already get compliments with the pygmy date + hawaiian ti + sunpatiens + "dragons breath" combo lol

I will protect it, that will not be an issue. Ive managed to keep a foxtail alive and well for 2 winters now and also thru 19F, in which i also kept Queens and a Bizzy alive in those temperatures. I am not worried about cold. And with the spot i have in mind, it should get some benefit from the house.

The only info I will need is light requirements, and what size yall would recommend i start out with. I understand that these are fairly slow growing and may take some time to show their red fronds? Another thing would be watering and fertilizer. Any info is much appreciated!

[Xenon]

I have a C. hookeri in the ground since August 2021. It's sandwiched between an east facing and north facing fenceline, so it gets direct sun in the morning and very little direct sun midday. A canopy of Livistona chinensis and water oak further filters overhead light. Kept moist throughtout the warm months and fed with a granular hibiscus fertilizer 10-4-12 and occassional doses of liquid fertilizer with chelated microelements. The C. hookeri still burns a bit in the summer when the direct sun creeps over the fence. C. hookeri is supposedly more sun tolerant than C. macrocarpa and "guaranteed"(?) to have a red new leaf. Planted as a one gallon from Floribunda and it never skipped a beat, slow but steady ~2-3 leaves a year. 

[JLM]

On 8/5/2023 at 2:09 AM, Xenon said:

I have a C. hookeri in the ground since August 2021. It's sandwiched between an east facing and north facing fenceline, so it gets direct sun in the morning and very little direct sun midday. A canopy of Livistona chinensis and water oak further filters overhead light. Kept moist throughtout the warm months and fed with a granular hibiscus fertilizer 10-4-12 and occassional doses of liquid fertilizer with chelated microelements. The C. hookeri still burns a bit in the summer when the direct sun creeps over the fence. C. hookeri is supposedly more sun tolerant than C. macrocarpa and "guaranteed"(?) to have a red new leaf. Planted as a one gallon from Floribunda and it never skipped a beat, slow but steady ~2-3 leaves a year. 

Anywhere that I can source one that is not Floribunda? Minimum order is $100 and with prices being as cheap as they are, it would be hard for me to pick which ones would work well here and still add up to that amount.

Edit: I found something on Lets Grow Florida and its like 3 seedlings for $50. The chances of getting one that throws red leaves are higher in that situation but I imagine it would take forever to get to the point of seeing red.

Edited August 7, 2023 by JLM

[JLM]

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[miamicuse]

If you can attend any of the palms & cycad society plant sale events they have those available in n varying sizes from 5, 10, 25 gallons at very attractive prices.

[johnnymak]

I have seedlings showing colour under 2 years old.

[JLM]

This pic brings me extreme amounts of joy! 

[DoomsDave]

2 hours ago, JLM said:

This pic brings me extreme amounts of joy! 

Just buy them?

[Jim in Los Altos]

On 8/4/2023 at 11:48 PM, JLM said:

Yes, Im wanting to try these and honestly, this is kind of my dream palm. Would be quite the show stopper in the front yard, hell i already get compliments with the pygmy date + hawaiian ti + sunpatiens + "dragons breath" combo lol

I will protect it, that will not be an issue. Ive managed to keep a foxtail alive and well for 2 winters now and also thru 19F, in which i also kept Queens and a Bizzy alive in those temperatures. I am not worried about cold. And with the spot i have in mind, it should get some benefit from the house.

The only info I will need is light requirements, and what size yall would recommend i start out with. I understand that these are fairly slow growing and may take some time to show their red fronds? Another thing would be watering and fertilizer. Any info is much appreciated!

Chambeyronia usually produce red fronds at a very young stage, often as small seedlings. The amount of red, maroon, orange, or bronze varies from plant to plant. I have many in my garden. Here are the tiniest ones showing bright red. These palms appreciate fertile loam but will tolerate some clay in the soil too. They like lots of water year round and morning sun/afternoon shade particularly when young. They tolerate more sun as they mature. 
 

 

[Than]

On 8/5/2023 at 9:48 AM, JLM said:

Yes, Im wanting to try these and honestly, this is kind of my dream palm. Would be quite the show stopper in the front yard, hell i already get compliments with the pygmy date + hawaiian ti + sunpatiens + "dragons breath" combo lol

I will protect it, that will not be an issue. Ive managed to keep a foxtail alive and well for 2 winters now and also thru 19F, in which i also kept Queens and a Bizzy alive in those temperatures. I am not worried about cold. And with the spot i have in mind, it should get some benefit from the house.

The only info I will need is light requirements, and what size yall would recommend i start out with. I understand that these are fairly slow growing and may take some time to show their red fronds? Another thing would be watering and fertilizer. Any info is much appreciated!

How did you keep a foxtail alive in 8b? Do you get frost in your area?

[JLM]

On 12/8/2023 at 9:46 PM, DoomsDave said:

Just buy them?

Yes! Bought them on Etsy.

On 12/8/2023 at 9:50 PM, Jim in Los Altos said:

Chambeyronia usually produce red fronds at a very young stage, often as small seedlings. The amount of red, maroon, orange, or bronze varies from plant to plant. I have many in my garden. Here are the tiniest ones showing bright red. These palms appreciate fertile loam but will tolerate some clay in the soil too. They like lots of water year round and morning sun/afternoon shade particularly when young. They tolerate more sun as they mature. 
 

 

Thanks for all the information! The spot i have them in right now gets sun about an hour after sunrise till around noon before it goes over the house. Shaded for the remainder of the day. In terms of watering, ive been letting nature do that, have been having frequent enough systems come through with healthy amounts of rainfall.

On 12/8/2023 at 10:38 PM, ego said:

How did you keep a foxtail alive in 8b? Do you get frost in your area?

In all honesty, this foxtail has been babied lol

It gets protected every time a freeze is threatened. The question about frost, most certainly. Have had frost a few times since the end of November.

[Than]

10 minutes ago, JLM said:

In all honesty, this foxtail has been babied lol

It gets protected every time a freeze is threatened. The question about frost, most certainly. Have had frost a few times since the end of November.

What heating system do you use for your baby, if it's not a very personal question? 

[JLM]

5 minutes ago, ego said:

What heating system do you use for your baby, if it's not a very personal question? 

Christmas lights. Usually keeps a good 10F-15F temperature difference from the outside temp.

[Than]

3 minutes ago, JLM said:

Christmas lights. Usually keeps a good 10F-15F temperature difference from the outside temp.

oh wow. I bought 100 mini ones and I can't feel any heat at all on my hand. 

And you wrap it with what?

[JLM]

2 minutes ago, ego said:

oh wow. I bought 100 mini ones and I can't feel any heat at all on my hand. 

And you wrap it with what?

Yes. Tie up fronds, wrap palm with a sheet. Wrap lights around that, then another sheet. Depending on the level of cold expected, might repeat that again, but most of the time 1 layer of lights is all thats needed. Then finally, plastic on the outside to trap the heat in. These are the kinds of lights i use:

[Than]

7 minutes ago, JLM said:

Yes. Tie up fronds, wrap palm with a sheet. Wrap lights around that, then another sheet. Depending on the level of cold expected, might repeat that again, but most of the time 1 layer of lights is all thats needed. Then finally, plastic on the outside to trap the heat in. These are the kinds of lights i use:

thank you! 

[Tomas]

1 hour ago, ego said:

oh wow. I bought 100 mini ones and I can't feel any heat at all on my hand. 

And you wrap it with what?

If tou cannot feel any heat, yours are peobably LED lights, not good for that purpouse. I think the light pictured above are incandescent bulbs

[Than]

1 hour ago, Tomas said:

If tou cannot feel any heat, yours are peobably LED lights, not good for that purpouse. I think the light pictured above are incandescent bulbs

Hmmm nowhere in the box does it say LED and they are sold as incandecense but I may have to investigate.. I'll contact the manufacturer.

[redant]

Really easy palm for fl. They grow really slow so your job of protecting them such be easy for a long time.