Palm identification help

[Foxpalms]

I need help identifying these seedlings. All were grown from seed. The seeds were collected in mostly zone 12b areas and a couple came from zone 13a where every type of palm grows due to the fact the humidity and temperature seems to be fine for all palms. All were germinated around 3 months ago and have been growing outside fine here with some sunburn.

 

I'm guessing the bottom one is some sort of archontophoenix? Which if it is could be any except purpurea. I'm not sure about the top one.

 

I'm guessing these are bottle palms.

[TheMadScientist]

Any chance you took photos of each seed prior to sowing?  Were these seeds all found on the ground, under the donor palm?  If so, did you photo the adult palm?

[Foxpalms]

27 minutes ago, TheMadScientist said:

Any chance you took photos of each seed prior to sowing?  Were these seeds all found on the ground, under the donor palm?  If so, did you photo the adult palm?

No they were mixed and there were hundreds of seeds in there. The seeds were taken from at least over 50 different palms. I do have a rough idea of what palms they were though, so if a suggestion was made I would definitely know wether that could be a possibility or not.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Foxpalms

[TheMadScientist]

I will only offer up 1 species guess, top photo right hand square black container, based on the 3 month growth period, the size of the fatter trunk, height of the growth and size of the bifold leaf development....VEITCHIA FAMILY, specific variety would only be a "WAG" wild ass guess... @Palmiz @Billeb seeing if you agree.

The last photo to me indicates a problem I have to balance all the time....watering frequency and not sunburn.  I'm trusting all containers have at least 4 drain holes and they are NOT sitting in mud to limit drainage.

[Foxpalms]

4 hours ago, TheMadScientist said:

I will only offer up 1 species guess, top photo right hand square black container, based on the 3 month growth period, the size of the fatter trunk, height of the growth and size of the bifold leaf development....VEITCHIA FAMILY, specific variety would only be a "WAG" wild ass guess... @Palmiz @Billeb seeing if you agree.

The last photo to me indicates a problem I have to balance all the time....watering frequency and not sunburn.  I'm trusting all containers have at least 4 drain holes and they are NOT sitting in mud to limit drainage.

The potting mix dries out very fast so that could be part of it. It drains very well maybe too well, the palms were watered just before the photo. I did collect seeds from a few Veitchias so the top right photo could be one of those. Thank you for the identification. 

[TheMadScientist]

I finally found a photo I've been looking for referencing Veitchia to justify my guess.  Mine are Joannis.  I did not take a photo of these seeds, but they were somewhat large, but smaller than a Foxtail seed.  This photo of 4 took 4 weeks once sown to germinate.  This growth is less than 2 weeks.  If you look along the trunk portion, your top photo right side has the same width at the base with the same type of taper to the bifold leaf.  I am still thankful to @Johnny Palmseed for the 6 seeds, all 6 were germinated by 7 weeks, fastest, healthiest species I have grown.  The second photo is a 6 month photo, so you can compare yours to this photo for development progress.

[Palmiz]

5 hours ago, TheMadScientist said:

I will only offer up 1 species guess, top photo right hand square black container, based on the 3 month growth period, the size of the fatter trunk, height of the growth and size of the bifold leaf development....VEITCHIA FAMILY, specific variety would only be a "WAG" wild ass guess... @Palmiz @Billeb seeing if you agree.

The last photo to me indicates a problem I have to balance all the time....watering frequency and not sunburn.  I'm trusting all containers have at least 4 drain holes and they are NOT sitting in mud to limit drainage.

Yes I definitely agree with Veitchia family Scott! Also the one next to it could be also due to jagged leaf edge or possibly Ptychosperma. The second photo looks like Archontophoenix and maybe a Washingtonia. Last one does look like bottle palm at first thought maybe Dictyosperma rubrum. Only time will tell, pic of the seeds would help for sure.

[Palmiz]

This can be an option too Carpenteria acuminata Veitchia Arecina Archontophoenix tuckerii Dictyosperma album rubrum doesn't look like yoursVeitchia joannis from @TheMadScientist thanks again!! About to open a new frond