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Parajubaea cocoides nearing the end

DoomsDave

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Looks like my biggest Parajubaea cocoides is getting ready to shuffle off the mortal coil.

Bummer!

It’s getting wobbly in the ground, and the growing point is toast.

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Tom in Tucson Veteran

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Does anyone have any theories as to why all the species of this genus die so early in California? Low altitude? Santa Ana or Diablo winds? Higher soil temperatures than in their mountain homes? Soil pathogens? Some other mysterious factors such as density of the atmosphere?

Hi 102°, Lo 57°

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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Great question Tom. My neighbor has had one in ground for at least 10 years. In that time, it’s suffered trunk rot near a dripper and at least 5-6 significant crown infections. But amazingly, he’s beaten back every one with fungicides, both topical and soil application types. It looks great and healthy again. I wish I could say that it happens during a particular season, but it doesn’t seem to matter. My unscientific guess is that they’re more suited to  lower humidity climate. I suspect that they see both hotter and colder temps in habitat than anything they encounter around here. Other than the infections, it always looks nice and green. 

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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Btw, sorry about yours Dave. :(

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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I know the feeling Dave. I lost three gorgeous trunked ones two years apart, all three during the summer. Two were in mostly shade and the third in full sun. All three with lush green fronds but ended with incurable crown rot. Replaced all with P. torallyi and sunkha that are now monsters. The biggest cocoides I ever saw was Darold’s in San Francisco well past his second story rooftop. It sadly passed away several years ago. 
 

A couple of my P. torallyi :)

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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peachy Grand Master

peachy

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Poor palm, poor Dave ! May it's fronds mulch in peace.

Peachy

(Showing a rare display of genuine empathy)

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

Darold Petty Grand Master

Darold Petty

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I don't have any positive information, or suggestions, just some gruesome images.  The dried coconuts were a small joke.   The last image shows the infected tissues.

Once, two old ladies passed by and complimented me for my "coconut palm".  Despite my protestation about the ID, they insisted that they knew all about coconuts, since they were from the Philippines.    :winkie:

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Xerarch Grand Master

Xerarch

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So sorry to see! That was huge and beautiful! And 🤣 about the coconut “experts”

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

BayAndroid Experienced

BayAndroid

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How old do these get in ideal conditions? 

Darold Petty Grand Master

Darold Petty

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1 hour ago, BayAndroid said:

How old do these get in ideal conditions? 

In Ecuador they truly look like coconuts, with bare trunks 35-40 feet tall.   There are many in Quito, here is an image of one in Otavalo.

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peachy Grand Master

peachy

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I have seen the light !  Always thought what dumb bunnies people are who couldn't tell the difference as coconuts have smooth trunks but seeing the photo of a really old one, and with a smooth trunk too, I now understand the confusion.

Thank you Uncle Darold.

Peachy

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

Phoenikakias Grand Master

Phoenikakias

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20 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I don't have any positive information, or suggestions, just some gruesome images.  The dried coconuts were a small joke.   The last image shows the infected tissues.

Once, two old ladies passed by and complimented me for my "coconut palm".  Despite my protestation about the ID, they insisted that they knew all about coconuts, since they were from the Philippines.    :winkie:

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Tropicdoc Veteran

Tropicdoc

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Hope this doesn’t happen to its hybrids with butia

time

will tell…..I have 4

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Darold Petty Grand Master

Darold Petty

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2 hours ago, Tropicdoc said:

Hope this doesn’t happen to its hybrids with butia

 

If you have a Patrick Schafer hybrid with P. cocoides it is likely that my former palm was the pollen donor.

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JeffM Explorer

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Hi All,

 

I purchased my 5 gallon P. cocoides from Mike Benton around 25 years ago and other than one year where a squirrel attempted to make a nest by chewing all the new fronds in the apex/growing point - so far they’ve been solid here in the East Bay/ Castro Valley area.  I’ll take some pics to share.

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happypalms Grand Master

happypalms

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We often forget that plants have a life cycle it’s time for your palm to come to the end of that cycle 😭

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Tropicdoc Veteran

Tropicdoc

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On 10/7/2023 at 9:00 AM, Darold Petty said:

If you have a Patrick Schafer hybrid with P. cocoides it is likely that my former palm was the pollen donor.

Yes. Thanks for the donation! Your palm lives on in its progeny!

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