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What are the most exotic, solid 9b palms?

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1 hour ago, Patrick said:

What are your needs currently? Do you need upper stuff? Lower stuff? Middle stuff? Where are you at with your garden? And how's your wind? Like, im same zone as you but Kentias are out because of my wind. Of course... I have one Im trying.... Beccario died for me, wasn't warm enough in its location. But if you wanted lower stuff you should look for Linospadix monostachya and some others. That's hecka short though so,maybe you're not there yet...

I think I need some canopy to at least attempt some protection for some of my more tender specimens. I ended up purchasing. I am struggling a bit to decide how to manage my space, because I have a Beccariophoenix Alfredii planted on one side of the front planter and a Decipiens on the other. These will some day take up a ton of space. 

Would a standard queen palm be the best choice for creating a canopy? 

Some of my small tender palms, all still in pots include: Chrysalidocarpus Ambositrae and Baronii. Chambeyronia Macrocarpa & Hookeri, Archontophoenix Purpurea and Rhopalostylis sapida 'Chatham Island'. These palms I concluded would have worked better, before I realized the reported temperatures on the weather report for my city didn't represent my personal microclimate. Now I'm basically shifting gears, trying to get some stuff that is more in line with my realistic temperatures. 

Ideally I could establish some protection and then put these tender palms in after that is established (probably the only chance for success). If canopy would not be protective enough, I'd probably plant these specimens at the office property I manage (6 - 10 degree improvement). 

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Wow those spines are insane! 

They bring you right hell  back from insanity Lordy miss Clordy

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Beccariophoenix alfredii!

If you have the room.

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10 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Beccariophoenix alfredii!

If you have the room.

Yep, I have one and if it survives it's first winter, I'll be pretty excited. I'm hoping I left enough room for it... 

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Yep, I have one and if it survives it's first winter, I'll be pretty excited. I'm hoping I left enough room for it... 

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Just barely!

Well worthy of the space. Come visit and I’ll show you monsters! Beautiful monsters!

PS is your house an “Eichler”?

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Queens grow stupid fast. Mine was in a pot on my apartment patio and it never turned into canopy, but in 2 years in Texas heat with regular (..."regular," it wasn't entirely enough) watering it went from an 18" seedling to an 8 foot tall monster that got repotted twice in the same summer, to me probably snapping it in half when I had to bring it inside during a snowstorm. There's no way I could have kept it another year in that environment. 

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Just barely!

Well worthy of the space. Come visit and I’ll show you monsters! Beautiful monsters!

PS is your house an “Eichler”?

I would have totally been down for an Eichler, because they seem like a good protected location for cool plants, but no, it's not. 

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Exotic is a matter of personal taste in my opinion but I think phoenix sylvestris is a very beautiful palm. It survives well even in 9a, though. Also, I think king palms are 9b safe in many places and they look pretty nice when they get big.

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Exotic is a matter of personal taste in my opinion but I think phoenix sylvestris is a very beautiful palm. It survives well even in 9a, though. Also, I think king palms were 9b safe in many places and they look pretty nice when they get big.

I have some king palms, they do fairly well, but do take damage and can look rather ugly by the end of winter. 

 

By the way, this is my Chrysalidocarpus Decipiens. I put the sun shade to keep it from burning. 

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12 hours ago, BayAndroid said:

I think I need some canopy to at least attempt some protection for some of my more tender specimens. I ended up purchasing. I am struggling a bit to decide how to manage my space, because I have a Beccariophoenix Alfredii planted on one side of the front planter and a Decipiens on the other. These will some day take up a ton of space. 

Would a standard queen palm be the best choice for creating a canopy? 

Some of my small tender palms, all still in pots include: Chrysalidocarpus Ambositrae and Baronii. Chambeyronia Macrocarpa & Hookeri, Archontophoenix Purpurea and Rhopalostylis sapida 'Chatham Island'. These palms I concluded would have worked better, before I realized the reported temperatures on the weather report for my city didn't represent my personal microclimate. Now I'm basically shifting gears, trying to get some stuff that is more in line with my realistic temperatures. 

Ideally I could establish some protection and then put these tender palms in after that is established (probably the only chance for success). If canopy would not be protective enough, I'd probably plant these specimens at the office property I manage (6 - 10 degree improvement). 

If you want some canopy fast, look into Livistona decora. Not quite as common as a queen or washy, but very fast to establish canopy.  Not too big a crown, either. I think you could probably find some 15 gallons or larger around if you look...

 

Just a thought. And I don't think they're as bad of pigs for resources that a queen is. Mine went down into the low 20's in '07 as freshly planted 15 Gallons. They didn't miss a beat.

 

At least search out some mules instead if you do go the queen route and want pinnate...

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Jubaea x Attalea

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23 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Queens grow stupid fast. Mine was in a pot on my apartment patio and it never turned into canopy, but in 2 years in Texas heat with regular (..."regular," it wasn't entirely enough) watering it went from an 18" seedling to an 8 foot tall monster that got repotted twice in the same summer, to me probably snapping it in half when I had to bring it inside during a snowstorm. There's no way I could have kept it another year in that environment. 

WHOA!

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36 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

WHOA!

Yeah, it was a beast. It loved the 100° full sun. Once it went pinnate it didn't stop growing. 

There's an Etsy seller selling 10 seedlings for $40. Mebbe I jump on that in spring. I've got enough room at this house to bring them in for a few days at a time. 

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23 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

8b baby

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Very nice. That's the perfect size, too. I wish the prettier palms could just max out at right about that height when planted by a residence! 

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