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Should i protect them ?

BigBilly

By BigBilly
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I was wondering what I should protect the low is supposed to to 20F, on Tuesday and I was wondering what needs a cover.

I have a small windmill and a Queen Sago Which I don't want to lose the foliage on along with a sabal minor and needle but I'm 99% sure they'll be fine.

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Allen Grand Master

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Can't help on the sago

Go to the Juvenile palm section in my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU3amwiG5U8

 

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The smaller ones I would protect, compare a 2ft windmill to a 4-5ft windmill, both juvenile palms but one gets frond damage at 13f while the other gets around 18-20f, so I would protect, from my own experience. Im expected to see 15f tomorrow as the low tomorrow and then 40f as a low in 3 days. Such crazy weather! 🤣

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I said it too quick, forecast changed, we are expected to see 13f this night! 😆 I can't believe the weather! One day 13f the next day 40f! No worries for my palm though, its sitting in a cozy 45f. Usually though once it reaches 46, the lights turn off and in 4-6 hours it reaches 35f and the lights turn on again in a cycle. It at least keeps the temps regulated and it doesn't get too hot inside.

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5 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

The smaller ones I would protect, compare a 2ft windmill to a 4-5ft windmill, both juvenile palms but one gets frond damage at 13f while the other gets around 18-20f, so I would protect, from my own experience. Im expected to see 15f tomorrow as the low tomorrow and then 40f as a low in 3 days. Such crazy weather! 🤣

 

6 hours ago, Allen said:

Can't help on the sago

Go to the Juvenile palm section in my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU3amwiG5U8

 

Thanks for the advice , guess I’ll throw a frost cloth over my windmill and figure out something for the sago , Also the video was very informative please dm me if you ever make one for palmettos.

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I think 20f is approaching defoliation on the sago, at least upper teens.  

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If the cycad truly is a Queen sago (Cycas circinalis), that is a Zone 10 plant and it will not like anything below freezing.  Without substantial protection it's a possibility the entire plant could be killed,  not just the fronds.

If you're wanting a cold hardy cycad you should be looking more for Cycas Taitungensis or panzhihuaensis.

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ChicagoPalma Mentor

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I just had 13F this morning, severe arctic blast and the palm box reached 60 F somehow, 47F difference! The mini lights really do help in the insulated box, but they take some time to heat up.  45 F is the normal temperature before it turns off but I guess my sister messed with the settings and the lights have been on for the past 24 hours.

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16 hours ago, jwitt said:

I think 20f is approaching defoliation on the sago, at least upper teens.  

Where I live they come back in no time once the weather warms up . 

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7 hours ago, Scott W said:

If the cycad truly is a Queen sago (Cycas circinalis), that is a Zone 10 plant and it will not like anything below freezing.  Without substantial protection it's a possibility the entire plant could be killed,  not just the fronds.

If you're wanting a cold hardy cycad you should be looking more for Cycas Taitungensis or panzhihuaensis.

i was mistaken i meant king sago ( Cycas Revoluta ) 

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On 11/27/2023 at 7:01 AM, BigBilly said:

I was wondering what I should protect the low is supposed to to 20F, on Tuesday and I was wondering what needs a cover.

I have a small windmill and a Queen Sago Which I don't want to lose the foliage on along with a sabal minor and needle but I'm 99% sure they'll be fine.

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Also I'm pretty sure the sago will be defoliated and the windmill should be fine fingers crossed 

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Those are really small. Old blanket plus hand warmers under the blanket. Easy day.

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On 11/27/2023 at 7:01 AM, BigBilly said:

I was wondering what I should protect the low is supposed to to 20F, on Tuesday and I was wondering what needs a cover.

I have a small windmill and a Queen Sago Which I don't want to lose the foliage on along with a sabal minor and needle but I'm 99% sure they'll be fine.

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They should all be fine except that I would protect the King Sago with some burlap wrap (even though it should also be fine).  If it is a Queen Sago, definitely add burlap wrap.

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Anyways I

8 hours ago, D Palm said:

Those are really small. Old blanket plus hand warmers under the blanket. Easy day.

 

8 hours ago, RFun said:

They should all be fine except that I would protect the King Sago with some burlap wrap (even though it should also be fine).  If it is a Queen Sago, definitely add burlap wrap.

did throw a blanket over the sago ( thanks to all who suggested it ), and so far so good it stayed 25F under there. Did the same thing to the windmill 

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Should I cover my windmill and needle to keep the rain off of them, We're forecasted for 2+ inches of rain and then it's supposed to be in the low 20s or teens a few days after. I went ahead and put some plastic coverings over them and I'm wondering if it'll help avoid spear pull , or if it could do more damage than good for them. 

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On 11/28/2023 at 9:30 AM, ChicagoPalma said:

I just had 13F this morning, severe arctic blast and the palm box reached 60 F somehow, 47F difference! The mini lights really do help in the insulated box, but they take some time to heat up.  45 F is the normal temperature before it turns off but I guess my sister messed with the settings and the lights have been on for the past 24 hours.

She probably unplugged it to run her hair dryer.

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9 hours ago, SeanK said:

She probably unplugged it to run her hair dryer.

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9 hours ago, BigBilly said:

Should I cover my windmill and needle to keep the rain off of them, We're forecasted for 2+ inches of rain and then it's supposed to be in the low 20s or teens a few days after. I went ahead and put some plastic coverings over them and I'm wondering if it'll help avoid spear pull , or if it could do more damage than good for them. 

What zone are you in. If zone 8 or below then put a bucket on it and cover it with some mini incandescent lights for when it gets colder than 15F

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