Butia Came!

[DTS]

I’m super happy with how big this 3 gallon Butia is! Can’t wait to plant this in May.

[Allen]

That's a super nice palm.  It's about the same size as mine in 2019.  They can grow fast once going.  Dry area, full sun.  Would stay well potted for a few years too.

Edited January 25 by Allen

[DTS]

11 minutes ago, Allen said:

That's a super nice palm.  It's about the same size as mine in 2019.  They can grow fast once going.  Dry area, full sun.  Would stay well potted for a few years too.

Here it is next to my smaller Butia

[Harry’s Palms]

Depending on how much sun it gets , I would expect that to gain size soon. They are slow to start but gain speed at about that size.  That looks very healthy. Harry

[DTS]

3 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Depending on how much sun it gets , I would expect that to gain size soon. They are slow to start but gain speed at about that size.  That looks very healthy. Harry

How long would it take the smaller one to get that size?

[Dwarf Fan]

What species they both Capitata/Odorata?

[Harry’s Palms]

3 hours ago, DTS1 said:

How long would it take the smaller one to get that size?

In a pot , depending on sun exposure , at least a year. Butia love the sun and warmth. 

[DTS]

 Both are Capitata

[ChicagoPalma]

15 hours ago, DTS1 said:

Here it is next to my smaller Butia

Enjoy it! Im surprised you dont have any trachycarpus or sabals in your litte tropical garden.

[DTS]

1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Enjoy it! Im surprised you dont have any trachycarpus or sabals in your litte tropical garden.

I didn't have any space to put anything because there were sunflowers taking up a big spot in my garden.

[WSimpson]

They are relatively easy to protect by collecting their fronds together  , adding supplemental heat and wrapping them with a blanket ,   and protecting the trunk with supplemental heat in a similar way  . There , you may want to box it up with supplemental heat . 

I didn't protect mine last winter and 6F damaged the fronds but there still was some green on the fronds . 

It's like Christmas morning when I get a new plant . 

Will

 

Below shows the damaged fronds in the spring , with some regrowth visible  . I cut off most of the dead parts of the fronds  to leave it looking better and greener . The second picture shows how it looked at the end of summer . It should be totally rejuvenated with one more summer of growth , assuming no more damaging winter cold this winter .  

 

[ChicagoPalma]

24 minutes ago, Will Simpson said:

They are relatively easy to protect by collecting their fronds together  , adding supplemental heat and wrapping them with a blanket ,   and protecting the trunk with supplemental heat in a similar way  . There , you may want to box it up with supplemental heat . 

I didn't protect mine last winter and 6F damaged the fronds but there still was some green on the fronds . 

It's like Christmas morning when I get a new plant . 

Will

 

Below shows the damaged fronds in the spring , with some regrowth visible  . I cut off most of the dead parts of the fronds  to leave it looking better and greener . The second picture shows how it looked at the end of summer . It should be totally rejuvenated with one more summer of growth , assuming no more damaging winter cold this winter .  

 

Nice palm, butia is my third option if I can't find any big windmills or washingtonias at the nursery this year, but they always have nice plump butias.

[Sabal King]

2 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Nice palm, butia is my third option if I can't find any big windmills or washingtonias at the nursery this year, but they always have nice plump butias.

Which nurseries up there have plump butias?  Must be some big changes because I've never seen butias up there.. Shoot some pictures over, that's great.

[ChicagoPalma]

5 hours ago, Sabal King said:

Which nurseries up there have plump butias?  Must be some big changes because I've never seen butias up there.. Shoot some pictures over, that's great.

Palm Trees | Garden Landscaping Center | Homer Glen Garden Designers (atouchofgreen.net), look at this monstrosity, check the pics, so many queens its crazy, they are nicer than the home depot ones.

[ChicagoPalma]

5 hours ago, Sabal King said:

Which nurseries up there have plump butias?  Must be some big changes because I've never seen butias up there.. Shoot some pictures over, that's great.

No pics of the butia but they had nice big ones last year, sadly couldnt get them because my last windmill died but this year the one from north carolina I got did amazingly well during the polar vortex. Anyways, hoping to get a big windmill this year, other wise, butia or washigtonia is my way to go, if they even have washingtonias again this year.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cqaO2dqo9R8

[Sabal King]

11 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

No pics of the butia but they had nice big ones last year, sadly couldnt get them because my last windmill died but this year the one from north carolina I got did amazingly well during the polar vortex. Anyways, hoping to get a big windmill this year, other wise, butia or washigtonia is my way to go, if they even have washingtonias again this year.

Can't wait to see the butia or washingtonia planted in the ground.. make sure you share your progress, that will be exciting to see.

[Las Palmas Norte]

14 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

No pics of the butia but they had nice big ones last year, sadly couldnt get them because my last windmill died but this year the one from north carolina I got did amazingly well during the polar vortex. Anyways, hoping to get a big windmill this year, other wise, butia or washigtonia is my way to go, if they even have washingtonias again this year.

 

Wow! I had no idea that a palm nursery (of the size) would generate enough enthusiasm to open and thrive in Chicago. Insane man.

[Leelanau Palms]

I appreciate the friendly folks on this forum. 

[Alex Zone 5]

22 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

I appreciate the friendly folks on this forum. 

This all started last year, when someone from Chicago stated that: he was gonna have huge Filifera and robusta with green fronds, with minimal protection, .... meanwhile he had trouble keeping a Trachycarpus alive 

Everyone on this forum advised him to go, with obvious choices like minor or needles for experimentation. But he kept rabbling that Chicago wasn't that cold...bla bla bla.

It's called zone pushing denial.

 

[Leelanau Palms]

22 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

I appreciate the friendly folks on this forum. 

I sincerely appreciate the patience and kindness I've seen here. (No sarcasm intended with either of my posts)

Edited January 28 by Leelanau Palms

[ChicagoPalma]

29 minutes ago, Alex Zone 5 said:

This all started last year, when someone from Chicago stated that: he was gonna have huge Filifera and robusta with green fronds, with minimal protection, .... meanwhile he had trouble keeping a Trachycarpus alive 

Everyone on this forum advised him to go, with obvious choices like minor or needles for experimentation. But he kept rabbling that Chicago wasn't that cold...bla bla bla.

It's called zone pushing denial.

 

 

22 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

I appreciate the friendly folks on this forum. 

I remember those days, where i was bored while my trachycarpus was dying from overheating and freezing, from greenhouse temperatures then straight below freezing. Yeah, but I surely know enough now. Other news, since the temperatures are getting so warm right now if they reach 50s Wednesday, I may open the box finally to ventilate after that horrible cold and dreaded weather. But to sum up last year february through april, i have no gosh darn idea what i was rambling about, you got some of it a bit mixed up but it was that point I said I was gonna plant a mule and everyone just had enough of it and decided to crap on it. Some people like Allen and others supported me but they were the ones who had some patience or some thinking of you know, helping me out and to teach me something, but that was like a year ago, but it's mostly just not talked about anymore. I'll probably never plant a mule here in Chicago, a butia at this point would be a little too far, but it can't hurt to try with some experience.

 

 

[ChicagoPalma]

3 minutes ago, Leelanau Palms said:

I sincerely appreciate the patience and kindness I've seen here. (No sarcasm intended with either of my posts)

You took things more into consideration when you joined and others compared to me, I think its just that people are now more open to help others out after that incident.

[Alex Zone 5]

2 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

You took things more into consideration when you joined and others compared to me, I think its just that people are now more open to help others out after that incident.

 

2 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

 

I remember those days, where i was bored while my trachycarpus was dying from overheating and freezing, from greenhouse temperatures then straight below freezing. Yeah, but I surely know enough now. Other news, since the temperatures are getting so warm right now if they reach 50s Wednesday, I may open the box finally to ventilate after that horrible cold and dreaded weather. But to sum up last year february through april, i have no gosh darn idea what i was rambling about, you got some of it a bit mixed up but it was that point I said I was gonna plant a mule and everyone just had enough of it and decided to crap on it. Some people like Allen and others supported me but they were the ones who had some patience or some thinking of you know, helping me out and to teach me something, but that was like a year ago, but it's mostly just not talked about anymore. I'll probably never plant a mule here in Chicago, a butia at this point would be a little too far, but it can't hurt to try with some experience.

 

 

[Las Palmas Norte]

Got a nice one gal. Butia yatay last week when I was out to visit @ShadyDan. It's just starting to develop pinnate fronds.

 

 

[Leelanau Palms]

Beautiful. What is your inventory of butias @Las Palmas Norte ?

[Las Palmas Norte]

1 hour ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Beautiful. What is your inventory of butias @Las Palmas Norte ?

That's it 🤣. They're marginal here and a bad winter can nuke 'em.

I had a nice B. capitata that I grew for about 10 years (below). We had a particularly bad winter in '08-'09 and by late spring of 2009 a fungus set in and was too wide spread to save it. Here it is in November '08 before it's demise the following spring.

 

[Alex Zone 5]

@ChicagoPalma

It's all good

 

[Leelanau Palms]

37 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

That's it 🤣. They're marginal here and a bad winter can nuke 'em.

I had a nice B. capitata that I grew for about 10 years (below). We had a particularly bad winter in '08-'09 and by late spring of 2009 a fungus set in and was too wide spread to save it. Here it is in November '08 before it's demise the following spring.

 

Very nice palm! Sorry about its demise! How does B. yatay compare?

Edited January 28 by Leelanau Palms