Why not grow orchids?

[Silas_Sancona]

2 hours ago, Barry said:

Nathan is correct, Just Plumeria’s just has generic cuttings. He splashes paint on the cutting to signify the flower colors. I saw him there, he does a lot of cuttings. Usually at most of the shows in our area. 
Florida Color nursery has an incredible selection of named varieties. Not totally necessary to have named varieties, but I like to collect unique colors. 

I Thought i recognized the grower ( Reference to the painted cuttings ) from a few sales i'd attended in Tampa / St. Pete but couldn't remember the name until i'd accidentally found it while looking for something else.

Nice folks for sure, but very basic selection..

Agree w/ Barry,  easy to get lost in all the different cultivars FL. Colors grows but well worth a visit.  Owners are fantastic. History of the nursery is one of a kind..  Wish they were closer so i could stop in just to say hello / see what they're working on.

[metalfan]

Just Plumeria was at a Gainesville show in March. I recognized the paint lol

[Fukuoka Scott]

There are quite a few orchids, both native and introduced, that do well in temperate parts of Japan. These Dendrobium mobile are on a tree in my next door neighbor's yard. Lowland, inland, just shy of zone 9 (the next little valley coastward is a solid 9 and is snow-free when we get accumulations)

[Fukuoka Scott]

Sorry Dendrobium *nobile. My autocorrect is sneaky!

[Silas_Sancona]

7 minutes ago, Fukuoka Scott said:

Sorry Dendrobium *nobile. My autocorrect is sneaky!

Is the pictured specimen the standard D. nobile, or a more robust clone?.. Just curious..  What tree is it growing on..  From a casual glance at some of the leaves, thinking an Oak ( Quercus ) or Ficus sp.?

[Fukuoka Scott]

On 5/21/2024 at 5:52 AM, Silas_Sancona said:

Is the pictured specimen the standard D. nobile, or a more robust clone?.. Just curious..  What tree is it growing on..  From a casual glance at some of the leaves, thinking an Oak ( Quercus ) or Ficus sp.?

My friend the orchid expert tells me it is a hybrid. I'll have to take a closer look at the tree next time I'm home. They have a Japanese topiary type garden and my impression was that it was some sort of ligustrum or something along those lines. It's an evergreen that tolerates a lot of pruning.

[Tracy]

On 5/21/2024 at 5:53 PM, Fukuoka Scott said:

My friend the orchid expert tells me it is a hybrid.

As robust as that Dendrobium nobile hybrid is, I'm sure that others on the forum would love to learn what that the cross is.  If you can check with your neighbor that would be nice information to post.

I'm currently enjoying the scent from this easy growing Maxillaria tenufolia.

[Silas_Sancona]

On 5/21/2024 at 5:53 PM, Fukuoka Scott said:

My friend the orchid expert tells me it is a hybrid. I'll have to take a closer look at the tree next time I'm home. They have a Japanese topiary type garden and my impression was that it was some sort of ligustrum or something along those lines. It's an evergreen that tolerates a lot of pruning.

  ..That would make sense..   While Oaks / some other, rough-barked trees are viewed as the best options, pretty sure i recall  Ligustrum  being mentioned by a few orchid growers here in the states as a good tree /  large shrub option for mounting Orchids on. 

Would be a good use for them, lol

[metalfan]

Cute little Vanda blooming

[bubba]

Not certain what these are:

 

[bubba]

[bubba]

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[John hovancsek]

This dendrobium is about to put on a show

[Axel Amsterdam]

inspired by this thread i bought my first dendrobium nobile. I will attach it to a palmtrunk and hopefully enjoy a display of flowers later.

[Silas_Sancona]

4 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

inspired by this thread i bought my first dendrobium nobile. I will attach it to a palmtrunk and hopefully enjoy a display of flowers later.

Nice choice...   Just remember that in winter, these have to stay dry ..i mean barely any water..  ..otherwise they won't flower the following spring.  You'll get a bunch of offsets ( What we call " Kikis ' in Hawaii ) though.

If you're warm enough ( don't drop below the mid / lower 20s ), look into Laelia anceps.  Easy to grow / will grow huge in slatted  plastic or wood baskets  if you have to bring indoors in the winter there.

[Axel Amsterdam]

Thanks, although my climate is difficult to compare to the US zones, many winters we won’t go below mid/lower 20’s F. Laelia looks wonderful and worth an experiment, thanks.

Is dendrobium able to handle these temperatures? 

 

[metalfan]

I'm going out on a limb and saying, no. Others may know some species that would take the 20's, but I have never heard of a Dend that could take 20's.

The single orchid I can think of that might be able to take 20's is Neofinitia falcata. They are said to be able to tolerate temps from 32F to 100F. I have never put that to the test mind you. Mine hang in the greenhouse. There they MIGHT get a low of 48-50F on the absolute coldest nights, and they routinely live in 90-95F

New bloomer for me today, Bulbophyllum frostii

 

[Silas_Sancona]

16 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

Thanks, although my climate is difficult to compare to the US zones, many winters we won’t go below mid/lower 20’s F. Laelia looks wonderful and worth an experiment, thanks.

Is dendrobium able to handle these temperatures? 

 

Yes, while keeping them somewhere where temps don't drop below 32F is best,  species within the Nobile / Callista groups of Dendrobium, Some others in one or two other Dendrobium sections,   and D. kinganum  / speciosum ...and a couple other Dendrobiums from Australia  can handle temps down to the high 20s.. sometimes lower,  if kept dry and they don't get frost on the leaves / canes / roots..

Laelia anceps ..and most of the other Laelia sps from Mexico ...and a few from S. America can also tolerate similar temps. if the same precautions are implemented.  FYI: Some of the South American Laelia sps have been moved to Cattleya,  ..so you have to do a little leg work to tease out those that are and are not cool / cold tolerant.

[Silas_Sancona]

Just now, Silas_Sancona said:

Yes, while keeping them somewhere where temps don't drop below 32F is best,  species within the Nobile / Callista groups of Dendrobium, Some others in one or two other Dendrobium sections,   and D. kinganum  / speciosum ...and a couple other Dendrobiums from Australia  can handle temps down to the high 20s.. sometimes lower,  if kept dry and they don't get frost on the leaves / canes / roots..

Laelia anceps ..and most of the other Laelia sps from Mexico ...and a few from S. America can also tolerate similar temps. if the same precautions are implemented.  FYI: Some of the South American Laelia sps have been moved to Cattleya,  ..so you have to do a little leg work to tease out those that are and are not cool / cold tolerant.

Info on the above mentioned groups ..and their temperature / cold tolerance can be found on the AOS ( American Orchid Society ) Website under the " culture / growing " pages..

"  Orchid Web " ..a sister Forum devoted to all things orchids,  is a tremendous resource of info. as well. Pretty sure there are numerous, fairly active members from Europe on that forum as well.

[Fukuoka Scott]

On 5/24/2024 at 12:17 AM, Tracy said:

As robust as that Dendrobium nobile hybrid is, I'm sure that others on the forum would love to learn what that the cross is.  If you can check with your neighbor that would be nice information to post.

I'm currently enjoying the scent from this easy growing Maxillaria tenufolia.

To quote him: "Very likely D. Moniliforme is in there. Perhaps some others. Complex Dendrobium hybrids are common"

[Silas_Sancona]

12 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Info on the above mentioned groups ..and their temperature / cold tolerance can be found on the AOS ( American Orchid Society ) Website under the " culture / growing " pages..

"  Orchid Web " ..a sister Forum devoted to all things orchids,  is a tremendous resource of info. as well. Pretty sure there are numerous, fairly active members from Europe on that forum as well.

@Axel Amsterdam  ***edit ** did not realize this until moments ago but, the Orchid -centric forum you want is " Orchid Board " This link: https://www.orchidboard.com/community/

Orchid Web is a great resource, but is more involved in selling plants, vs. an info -based forum.. My apologies for any confusion ( and not catching that hiccup earlier )..  That will teach me to double check again when passing on links, 🙃 lol..

12 minutes ago, Fukuoka Scott said:

To quote him: "Very likely D. Moniliforme is in there. Perhaps some others. Complex Dendrobium hybrids are common"

  Interesting.. Flower size, at least in the picture, looks like your standard nobile, while moniliforme  typically has small-ish flowers / is often a smaller sized plant, overall.

Would think one or both traits might show up in any crosses..  Or maybe i just never noticed when looking over  specimens at shows / in collections, lol.

[Axel Amsterdam]

2 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

@Axel Amsterdam  ***edit ** did not realize this until moments ago but, the Orchid -centric forum you want is " Orchid Board " This link: https://www.orchidboard.com/community/

Orchid Web is a great resource, but is more involved in selling plants, vs. an info -based forum.. My apologies for any confusion ( and not catching that hiccup earlier )..  That will teach me to double check again when passing on links, 🙃 lol..

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Thanks Nathan, i was already exploring the forum this morning, great source of info.

[Axel Amsterdam]

i tucked it in beween older leaf and flower stalks, exciting to see how it will do

[piping plovers]

I made it to ecuagenera prior to my flight home from FL. Some interesting Catt type orchids in bloom.  Some photos below with their names following. A few, however, weren’t labeled.

While there, I picked up a few I’ve had in my online cart for awhile, including a philodendron.

 

a stunning white:

 

Anything coerulea gets my attention.  stopped by this one a few times. Was too tall for carry on but will keep it in mind:

These below, I purchased.
 

My 1st phrag! ecuagenera website photo. Seems like a good one to start with:

This one also, ecuagenera website photos:

And lastly a philodendron interloper to join the orchids:

 

 

 

 

[Silas_Sancona]

Nice choices.. The " Fuzzy " Philodendron looks interesting..

Not 100% certain, but the White / Purple lipped Catt. ...above the blue- ish Catt. Maxima coerulea looks like Catt. ( Formally Laelia )  purpurea ..possibly one of the " coerulea " forms, but again, not totally certain on the ID.

Dark Pink-y Lavender / Burgundy -lipped Catt.? Possibly a BLC / LC. cross??

Good luck w/ the Phrag.  Have seen big specimens like the picture of that sp..   Couldn't miss noticing it if you tried to.

[piping plovers]

13 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Nice choices.. The " Fuzzy " Philodendron looks interesting..

Not 100% certain, but the White / Purple lipped Catt. ...above the blue- ish Catt. Maxima coerulea looks like Catt. ( Formally Laelia )  purpurea ..possibly one of the " coerulea " forms, but again, not totally certain on the ID.

Thank you Nathan!  Yes, I think you’re right on the purpurea.

I’m now binge-watching videos on phrag care as I am completely new to them😁.  Several members of my local orchid societies do a great job growing them indoors up in the northeast and they have been inspiring me to try one👍

[Silas_Sancona]

4 hours ago, piping plovers said:

Thank you Nathan!  Yes, I think you’re right on the purpurea.

I’m now binge-watching videos on phrag care as I am completely new to them😁.  Several members of my local orchid societies do a great job growing them indoors up in the northeast and they have been inspiring me to try one👍

.. It looked familiar but obviously, there are some other Catts. that have a similar look.  C / L. purpurata is one of my favorite easy Cattleya types by far.  Might be a few more months but determined to add at least a couple Orchids to play with again, ..and contribute pictures of again,  haha..  Feeling a case of the Hoyas coming on lately as well..

You're binge watching Phrag vids.  I've been binge watching Roller Skating / Blading videos 🙃.  Did not realize both have apparently made a huge comeback.

[Tracy]

I have been waiting since 2021 for one of my two Vanda tricolor plants to bloom and patience has been rewarded now on the younger of the two.  Patience makes the reward a little sweeter.

[metalfan]

Oh I love that Vanda!

[piping plovers]

9 hours ago, Tracy said:

 

I have been waiting since 2021 for one of my two Vanda tricolor plants to bloom

 

Well worth the wait!  Really interesting patterns and colors.

[Axel Amsterdam]

I tried to read up on the blooming cycle of dendrobium nobile and most of the sources seem to point out that winter and spring are their natural blooming periods (needing a colder period in advance). But would that also account for cool summer climates like amsterdam? We have many days around 20C to 25C in summer which will be the equivalent of spring temps in most of their habitat i suppose. So i wonder if that means more continous flower development during the summer months, i surely hope so. 

[Tracy]

35 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

I tried to read up on the blooming cycle of dendrobium nobile and most of the sources seem to point out that winter and spring are their natural blooming periods (needing a colder period in advance). But would that also account for cool summer climates like amsterdam? We have many days around 20C to 25C in summer which will be the equivalent of spring temps in most of their habitat i suppose. So i wonder if that means more continous flower development during the summer months, i surely hope so. 

Temperature isn't the only factor that plays into blooming season.  Many plants (poinsettias for example) have their cycles determined by the amount of daylight they experience.  My Dendrobium nobile var. cooksonianum bloomed at the begging of April this year, which is pretty close to past years.

I'm enjoying more late spring bloomers like this Sedirea japonica

[aztropic]

Vandas seem to finally be waking up now in Arizona. Currently have 1 in bloom,with others just budding out. 

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

[aztropic]

The indoor collection.

Phalaenopsis is the only species I grow that can't seem to survive our extreme temperatures in Arizona, so they stay indoors year round. Wonderful plants that bloom every spring,with flowers that usually last 3 months or more. 

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

[piping plovers]

2 hours ago, aztropic said:

Phalaenopsis is the only species I grow that can't seem to survive our extreme temperatures in Arizona, so they stay indoors year round. Wonderful plants that bloom every spring,with flowers that usually last 3 months or more. 

That seems to be a good plan; they look great!

[SubTropicRay]

Papilionanthe Miss Joaquim

Cattleya forbesii

[piping plovers]

On 5/17/2024 at 11:53 PM, piping plovers said:

This was a great find. The B. Phaleonopsis at a good price 😁

Finally potted this Bulbophyllum in a basket. I know it looks like a ho-hum phaleonopsis species now but looking forward to it putting out those impressive leaves.

 

 

[metalfan]

Dendrobium bracteosum. I love these dangly cane Dends. They look dead, then the dead looking canes bloom LOL.

[Axel Amsterdam]

I found this a very insightful video on the topic of cool/cold tolerance of various orchids