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Phoenix Sylvestris dying after 6 years

Skiddy

By Skiddy
in COLD HARDY PALMS

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I'm not sure exactly what the root cause of the infection is but my Sylvester Palm got hit with something that started last fall. The branches started browning from bottom or oldest first and has now,  over seven months later, taken over the entire branch system.  The tree is about 7-9 years old and stands roughly 15-20 ft tall. The only green I can still see is the newest growth from the crown. Very sad as this has been a beauty over the years. Always getting compliments from our neighbors. My landscape friend told me it has been hitting this area of Florida (West central gulf coast) and can be spread by birds, in which I have noticed several nesting Doves and Mocking birds as of late. I will more than likely be removing this tree and prepping the ground for the next tree venture.

Silas_Sancona Grand Master

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  On 5/14/2024 at 10:50 PM, Skiddy said:

I'm not sure exactly what the root cause of the infection is but my Sylvester Palm got hit with something that started last fall. The branches started browning from bottom or oldest first and has now,  over seven months later, taken over the entire branch system.  The tree is about 7-9 years old and stands roughly 15-20 ft tall. The only green I can still see is the newest growth from the crown. Very sad as this has been a beauty over the years. Always getting compliments from our neighbors. My landscape friend told me it has been hitting this area of Florida (West central gulf coast) and can be spread by birds, in which I have noticed several nesting Doves and Mocking birds as of late. I will more than likely be removing this tree and prepping the ground for the next tree venture.

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Welcome to the forum.. Any pictures of the entire Palm??..

Sounds like it could be Lethal Bronzing, which is caused by a bacterium spread by one or a couple species of sap feeding leafhoppers ( ..a type of insect )

Sounds like your landscaping friend needs a bit of correct info regarding spread. L.B is definitely not spread by birds...

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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

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Photos needed

But, yes, sounds like lethal bronzing to me, too. Not treatable and invariably fatal. Figure on removing it ASAP, then send remains out with the garbage to be incinerated. Do not replant any Phoenix palm.

Phoenix sylvestris is a prime target for lethal bronzing. The disease is decimating this species throughout FL. Too bad, because this is my favorite Phoenix if I were ever to plant one - not a chance.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

SeanK Grand Master

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  On 5/15/2024 at 10:16 AM, PalmatierMeg said:

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But, yes, sounds like lethal bronzing to me, too. Not treatable and invariably fatal. Figure on removing it ASAP, then send remains out with the garbage to be incinerated. Do not replant any Phoenix palm.

Phoenix sylvestris is a prime target for lethal bronzing. The disease is decimating this species throughout FL. Too bad, because this is my favorite Phoenix if I were ever to plant one - not a chance.

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Is there any restriction on planting palms in the same spot?

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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  On 5/15/2024 at 1:24 PM, SeanK said:

Is there any restriction on planting palms in the same spot?

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Not all palms are subject to lethal bronzing. One FL site indicates approx. 21 species, including queens, Butias, Sabal palmetto, most Phoenix, coconuts, Bismarckia, Carpentaria, Adonidia

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

ahosey01 Grand Master

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  On 5/15/2024 at 1:24 PM, SeanK said:

Is there any restriction on planting palms in the same spot?

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I have heard from some growers that there are certain palms that are more or less susceptible, and that often susceptibility increases with age or stress.  I wouldn't stick a sylvestris in the same spot, but I think @Skiddy probably fine more or less.

Livistona might be a good choice for this scenario.

ahosey01 Grand Master

ahosey01

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Double post.  Oops.

Harry’s Palms Grand Master

Harry’s Palms

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Sorry for your loss. I have lost palms and it is discouraging. It sounds like you have the reason and can plant something that is better for that area. I have lost a couple of palms that just don’t want to be in my garden anymore , not disease or anything I can pin down , it just happened, while others thrive. Harry

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