MY BIGGEST COPERNICIA !! LO AND BEHOLD !!!

[tiburcio]

this is my last copernicia !!  can someone id it ?? cheerios

[Merlyn]

@tiburcio I'm not the best guesser on Copernicia (or any palm, for that matter), my first thought was Baileyana.  But it is fairly blue at that size, which might mean something like a very blue Hospita.  Can you tell us what color the rachis thorns are, and which direction do the thorns curve...towards the base or towards the fan?  A closeup picture of the rachis might help.

[tiburcio]

Hi Merlyn, hope these help.

[tiburcio]

Seems a little bit confused !! some point upwards and some downwards !!! lol

[Merlyn]

@tiburcio yeah that is kind of odd.  My notes on the thorns are that teeth colored the same as the rachis may be Fallaensis, and black teeth pointing towards the fan are Baileyana.  I think Hospita is straw colored facing the fan.  

Hopefully some others can give better ID options!

[tiburcio]

9 minutes ago, Merlyn said:

@Merlyn seems like a baileyana by your description. I´m glad it´s a little bit "blue" !!! tha´s a nice one, so it´s like a blue baileyana ??

 

[tiburcio]

Guess we´ll never know what this is !!! 🥴

[sonoranfans]

Looks like a bailey to me.  Green baileys can get a little glacous, though it could also be a hospita I guess.  At over 8000 ft elevation, that  could be the highest altitude bailey/hospita in the world.  There could be some morphological plasticity here making that palm look a bit different than one grown in the carribean.  I have (3) juvenile blue hospitas, their thorns are currently all black and can point in either direction with a mix of both directions.  My fallaensis 15 g also has black thorns but it is also a baby, my adult fallaensis does not have black thorns through they turn brown on older leaves.  My adult bailey has some vicious, obviously black throns 7 + mm long (a guess) cant reach them to measure any more.  Cuban copernicias often have to gain some size to be distinguishable

[tiburcio]

5 hours ago, sonoranfans said:

Thank you. Seems like a bailey then. Will update in the future then . Cheerios