Hyophorbe lagenicaulis not producing viable seeds

[Brian]

I have a group of 4 H. Lagenicaulis that put out tons of inflorescences however they never produce viable seeds. Not far away I have another grouping of H. Verchaffeltii that do produce viable seeds. 
I was wondering if anyone else has this problem or if they know the reason why I’m not getting viable seeds? 
The palms are very mature and have been flowering for several years. The fruits won’t ripen anymore then in the photo and there are no hard seeds inside the fruits.

 

[PalmatierMeg]

I don't have any good advice for you because in the 30+ years of growing two langencaulis I have yet to harvest any ripe seeds - why, I don't know. First of all, I believe crops take 2 years to ripen but my palms abort all their seeds during the first year while they are still avocado-green-colored. So, not one ripe seed.

I also have never gotten ripe seeds from my two 30+-year-old H verschaffeltii. I don't know why: my alkaline sandy dreck soil? Both species are hardy in my area aside from some winter spotting on the bottles. They are irrigated 2x weekly and fertilized 2x per year. They are large and fat and flower and set seeds but all seeds abort before ripening.

I'd also like to know someone else's experience with these species, esp. in FL. Moot point, I guess, as every BB garden center carries potted Hyphorbes and I'm not interested in growing more

 

[aztropic]

NatureGirl has also had the same general experience with her lagenicaulis,but got viable seeds one year that I purchased,and had great results with. Luck of the draw I guess...  Here's one of the offspring from her tree. Gets beat up over our winters,but always looks great by October! 😄🤷‍♂️ 

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

[Brian]

6 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I don't have any good advice for you because in the 30+ years of growing two langencaulis I have yet to harvest any ripe seeds - why, I don't know. First of all, I believe crops take 2 years to ripen but my palms abort all their seeds during the first year while they are still avocado-green-colored. So, not one ripe seed.

I also have never gotten ripe seeds from my two 30+-year-old H verschaffeltii. I don't know why: my alkaline sandy dreck soil? Both species are hardy in my area aside from some winter spotting on the bottles. They are irrigated 2x weekly and fertilized 2x per year. They are large and fat and flower and set seeds but all seeds abort before ripening.

I'd also like to know someone else's experience with these species, esp. in FL. Moot point, I guess, as every BB garden center carries potted Hyphorbes and I'm not interested in growing more

 

Oh well, at least it’s good to know that I’m not the only one who can get these to produce seed. 

[Brian]

6 hours ago, aztropic said:

NatureGirl has also had the same general experience with her lagenicaulis,but got viable seeds one year that I purchased,and had great results with. Luck of the draw I guess...  Here's one of the offspring from her tree. Gets beat up over our winters,but always looks great by October! 😄🤷‍♂️ 

There are a bunch of them planted on Saddle Club Rd in Weston, Fl and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen them with ripe seed. 
Mine are in Mexico and a neighbor keeps asking me for seeds.