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Ptychosperma ID

Brad52

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Obtained this nice palm from Mike in Kurtistown, thanks Mike,  but at the time unsure if lauterbachii or schefferi.  It is about 5 meters tall now and about to climb above the white torch ginger so I am wondering if an ID is apparent yet?

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Fusca Grand Master

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I'm leaning towards scheferri but you'll know better once it flowers.  If scheferri it'll have white flowers then dark purple fruits.  I believe lauterbachii have the typical bright red fruits.

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@Brad52 That is a beauty! I love this Genus , unfortunately mine didn’t make it here. Harry

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mike in kurtistown Mentor

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I think lauterbachii. I have raised both species, originally from seeds collected at the UHH (Univ. of Hawaii} Arboretum in 2007 and 2008. I am raising schefferis now from my own plants. From my notes, the lauterbachii fruits were pale orange, whereas the schefferi fruits were purple-black. The leaflets on both are cuneate, but the lauterbachii leaflets are more separated than those of schefferi. The terminal part of the schefferi leaf is somewhat rounded, and schefferi is more densely clustering than lauterbachii. On mature lauterbachiis, the individual stems stand out more clearly.

Here are pictures, the first of my two shefferis taken recently and the second, a poor picture of one of my lauterbachiis taken two years ago:

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

Brad52 Mentor

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At the time, Mike, you thought lauterbachii but were uncertain.  In either case its a fine palm thanks again!

Cape Garrett Proficient

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NOT schefferi for sure.

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Brad52 Mentor

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8 hours ago, Cape Garrett said:

NOT schefferi for sure.

What is it that you see that confirms not schefferi?  I’m not doubting you, just wanna know!

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Cape Garrett Proficient

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On 10/17/2024 at 7:19 PM, Brad52 said:

What is it that you see that confirms not schefferi?  I’m not doubting you, just wanna know!

Sorry.  Just saw this.  Elongated fronds and fishtail like leaflets.  When schefferi suckers, the new growth is entire leaf or very wide, two lobed leaves.  Also schefferi has a much more compact crown overall.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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On 10/15/2024 at 2:54 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

@Brad52 That is a beauty! I love this Genus , unfortunately mine didn’t make it here. Harry

Try again! I’ve got some!

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