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1730684178831350401398012776328.thumb.jpg.06466fb1ee3896e9bbaded47f540efe2.jpgI almost started a topic a few or more weeks ago pertaining to how well most of my Dypsis (Chrysalidocarpus) were fairing as a lot of them were in the throws of flowering but thought it unworthy . I was just wandering through the garden extolling the virtues of various Heliconias to my son Harry when I came upon this and was very excited. I hope you all share the excitement. 

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If you got em post em trust me. Nice palm by the way. Post as many stories as you like freedom of speech I do believe. Just be yourself and post away I do 🤣

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Just now, happypalms said:

If you got em post em trust me. Nice palm by the way. Post as many stories as you like freedom of speech I do believe. Just be yourself and post away I do 🤣

It's nice to be in like minded company 😂

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I can tell you photos of any Chrysalidocarpus get tons of views on here, especially success stories and how-to posts.  Every new post has the chance to reach someone that doesnt know about them, please post them!

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8 hours ago, flplantguy said:

I can tell you photos of any Chrysalidocarpus get tons of views on here, especially success stories and how-to posts.  Every new post has the chance to reach someone that doesnt know about them, please post them!

Duly noted.

This is flowering for the first time, i have another thats quite similar but is in more sun and consequently looks a little harder grown but flowering for the first time also. Im not certain of the species so any suggestions of identification are welcomed.

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Ambositrae ( if the type in PoM is still accurate) obscured but behind to the right.

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Good morning all, just noticed this is flowering too, possibly Pembana not really certain, of the three originally thought to be Pembana I'm not sure any are.

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The leaf seems too broad on this new trunk for Pembana, but I'm no expert.

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2 hours ago, Cannonball said:

Good morning all, just noticed this is flowering too, possibly Pembana not really certain, of the three originally thought to be Pembana I'm not sure any are.

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Hi Paul,

Nice collection. This one looks a bit like the C (D) sp. Mayotte that has floated around. But honestly I can’t make a positive ID. The pembanus/cabadae/madagascariensis complex is tricky especially with all of the hybrids out there. 

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23 hours ago, Cannonball said:

Duly noted.

This is flowering for the first time, i have another thats quite similar but is in more sun and consequently looks a little harder grown but flowering for the first time also. Im not certain of the species so any suggestions of identification are welcomed.

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Front palm may have at least some C madagascariensis genes in it based on the crownshaft colour and emerging spear colour. Are the fronds plumose/arranged on multiple planes? The one in the back I can’t tell for sure but looks to be plumose which would rule out the true C ambositrae. Possibly C plumosus which did get confused for C ambositrae when it first entered Aus. 

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Just now, tim_brissy_13 said:

Front palm may have at least some C madagascariensis genes in it based on the crownshaft colour and emerging spear colour. Are the fronds plumose/arranged on multiple planes? The one in the back I can’t tell for sure but looks to be plumose which would rule out the true C ambositrae. Possibly C plumosus which did get confused for C ambositrae when it first entered Aus. 

Hi Tim, no neither are plumose. I'll get some more photos.

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The first is quite narrow in the trunk and elegant to the eye, leaflets are regularly arranged, if not slightly in pairs but only somewhat. Arching and recurving. Sparse with ramenta.

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Just now, tim_brissy_13 said:

Front palm may have at least some C madagascariensis genes in it based on the crownshaft colour and emerging spear colour. Are the fronds plumose/arranged on multiple planes? The one in the back I can’t tell for sure but looks to be plumose which would rule out the true C ambositrae. Possibly C plumosus which did get confused for C ambositrae when it first entered Aus. 

The one behind is more robust, highly indument, arching and recurving, fits the type of Ambositrae and is not the early miss named Plumosa. Leaflets are regularly arranged.

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This is what I knew to be Plumosa but I haven't really been paying attention for many years so it's possibly renamed.

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This is a Pinnatifrons cross, not the first time it's held seed but previously unfixable, fingers crossed. 

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This is a Pinnatifrons cross, not the first time it's held seed but previously unfixable, fingers crossed. 

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Unviable*more than likely e unfixable😂

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41 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Hi Paul,

Nice collection. This one looks a bit like the C (D) sp. Mayotte that has floated around. But honestly I can’t make a positive ID. The pembanus/cabadae/madagascariensis complex is tricky especially with all of the hybrids out there. 

Thanks Tim. I was steering towards Lanceolata so that all makes a lot of sense.

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@Cannonball yep you’re right scrap my previous guesses definitely not madagascariensis or plumosa for those two. Possibly something aligned to the flat leaf form of onilahensis for the thin trunked one, and for the other one it could be true ambositrae. 

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Yes I'm thinking a type of Onilahensis perhaps.

This is my Madagascariensis on the right In these photos, it had a much smaller secondary trunk but it was growing under the eaves so had to be removed. 

Carpoxylon on the left with Onilahensis in front and centre.

Leptocheilos to the far right and behind.

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Good morning everyone,  Robusta? With a new leaf, perhaps Pembana behind and to the left, and Arenarum (maybe) to in flower and to the right.

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