Can this be a Washingtonia Hybrid

[Rasan Jubaea]

[Harry’s Palms]

To me they look like Filifera with the trunks so large. Definitely need bigger pots! Harry

[Rasan Jubaea]

The trunks are indeed too large for robusta. But shouldn't they be more fibrous on the leafs for a Filifera?

[Fusca]

26 minutes ago, Rasan Jubaea said:

The trunks are indeed too large for robusta. But shouldn't they be more fibrous on the leafs for a Filifera?

I'm not sure where you sourced these palms but here most of the Washingtonia palms sold are hybrids.  It will become more obvious as they get larger but if you see any red color on the leaf petiole bases they're hybrids.  I think I see some in the last photo but not sure.  Both robusta and filifera can have a lot of cottony fibers which neither of these palms seem to have but it isn't always a good identifier of species.  They do seem to be filifera dominant.

[Rasan Jubaea]

On 11/17/2024 at 1:32 AM, Fusca said:

I'm not sure where you sourced these palms but here most of the Washingtonia palms sold are hybrids.  It will become more obvious as they get larger but if you see any red color on the leaf petiole bases they're hybrids.  I think I see some in the last photo but not sure.  Both robusta and filifera can have a lot of cottony fibers which neither of these palms seem to have but it isn't always a good identifier of species.  They do seem to be filifera dominant.

Thanks for the reply. These have been imported to Iraqi Kurdistan. The photos are a bit blurry but in the original photos there appears to be some orange color on the leaf bases. I can go there again and look for more reddish ones but what about the trunk? Should i aim for a thick white trunk like this with a more reddish leaf base to ensure it is a filibusta?

[Fusca]

6 hours ago, Rasan Jubaea said:

Thanks for the reply. These have been imported to Iraqi Kurdistan. The photos are a bit blurry but in the original photos there appears to be some orange color on the leaf bases. I can go there again and look for more reddish ones but what about the trunk? Should i aim for a thick white trunk like this with a more reddish leaf base to ensure it is a filibusta?

If you are looking for fast growth I would go with one that has the most red color and thinner trunk (more robusta traits).  If you are looking for one with more cold tolerance go with the thicker trunk (more filifera traits).  It's probably safe to say that they're all filibusta but there's going to be variation in the amount of filifera vs. robusta in the mix.  The hybrids will still grow fast.  Pure robusta will have glossy green fronds in addition to the red leaf bases and pure filifera will have dull green/grey fronds with no red.

[Rasan Jubaea]

37 minutes ago, Fusca said:

If you are looking for fast growth I would go with one that has the most red color and thinner trunk (more robusta traits).  If you are looking for one with more cold tolerance go with the thicker trunk (more filifera traits).  It's probably safe to say that they're all filibusta but there's going to be variation in the amount of filifera vs. robusta in the mix.  The hybrids will still grow fast.  Pure robusta will have glossy green fronds in addition to the red leaf bases and pure filifera will have dull green/grey fronds with no red.

I am more worried about their hardiness. But a bit of fast growth will be great too! I will see if i could somehow figure out ones with 70% filifera and 30% robusta traits.

[Fusca]

49 minutes ago, Rasan Jubaea said:

I am more worried about their hardiness. But a bit of fast growth will be great too! I will see if i could somehow figure out ones with 70% filifera and 30% robusta traits.

I believe thicker trunk is the best indicator of increased cold hardiness.