ChrysalidocarpusID

[idontknowhatnametuse]

I found this Chrysalidocarpus sp. in a 2009 street view of my city, Monterrey, Mexico back when the city was full of tropical stuff before 2011. It looks too robust to be C. lutescens, could it be C. cabadae?

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6483647,-100.2629644,3a,37.6y,158.91h,91.03t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA!2e0!5s20090501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.033368215208128%26panoid%3DVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA%26yaw%3D158.90642979286102!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Edited November 21 by idontknowhatnametuse
I put "Dypsis" instead of "Chrysalidocarpus"

[Palmiz]

On 11/21/2024 at 3:11 PM, idontknowhatnametuse said:

I found this Chrysalidocarpus sp. in a 2009 street view of my city, Monterrey, Mexico back when the city was full of tropical stuff before 2011. It looks too robust to be C. lutescens, could it be C. cabadae?

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6483647,-100.2629644,3a,37.6y,158.91h,91.03t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA!2e0!5s20090501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.033368215208128%26panoid%3DVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA%26yaw%3D158.90642979286102!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

My guess would be cabadae also, I don't any yellow that's usually on lutescens 

[iDesign]

On 11/21/2024 at 3:11 PM, idontknowhatnametuse said:

I found this Chrysalidocarpus sp. in a 2009 street view of my city, Monterrey, Mexico back when the city was full of tropical stuff before 2011. It looks too robust to be C. lutescens, could it be C. cabadae?

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.6483647,-100.2629644,3a,37.6y,158.91h,91.03t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA!2e0!5s20090501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.033368215208128%26panoid%3DVs0eY-1MLwQ7SaEkkwsPVA%26yaw%3D158.90642979286102!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Looks like it was removed sometime between 2009 & 2015... WHY?!!!
It was such a pretty palm. 😢

The royal was removed as well.  But that one was near power lines, so there was at least some logic to that one.

[idontknowhatnametuse]

1 hour ago, Palmiz said:

My guess would be cabadae also, I don't any yellow that's usually on lutescens 

Thanks

[idontknowhatnametuse]

32 minutes ago, iDesign said:

Looks like it was removed sometime between 2009 & 2015... WHY?!!!
It was such a pretty palm. 😢

The royal was removed as well.  But that one was near power lines, so there was at least some logic to that one.

The Chrysalidocarpus probably wasn't removed just for removing it, the 2011 freeze probably killed it, if you explore a bit more you will notice there's tons of Ficus benjamina in every street in 2009 but they disappear after 2011. You will also be able to find other tropical palms and plants being wiped out like mature Cocos nucifera, mature C. lutescens, Roystoneas, C. decaryi, Adonidia merrillii, Ravenala madagascariensis, Thrinax radiata (Though in most cases they survived) etc. I even saw a garden with a Musa sumatrana that later disappears. Coconut palm plantings were not that rare in that warm period, those warmer periods normally happen after a row of freezes, I hope they start happening again because since 2021 we've been getting them every year. Apparently this is not new, it also happened with Ficus elastica that became popular in Monterrey in the 50's and 60's and the last winters of the 60's killed all of them.

This is a garden in 2009, coconut palm and royals survived, the mature Adonidia didn't make it through 2011 but the surviving palms were later killed in 2021. OR maybe the owners thought they were all dead and were cut down too early because even the queen palm was dead and 2021 didn't kill queen palms.

[idontknowhatnametuse]

31 minutes ago, iDesign said:

Looks like it was removed sometime between 2009 & 2015... WHY?!!!
It was such a pretty palm. 😢

The royal was removed as well.  But that one was near power lines, so there was at least some logic to that one.

Another example here, though one of the coconuts survives.

https://www.google.com/maps/@25.781761,-100.2747656,3a,72.4y,355.75h,84.65t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sCBULPxTZGz_Cnn7hmbseuw!2e0!5s20091201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.347749478700152%26panoid%3DCBULPxTZGz_Cnn7hmbseuw%26yaw%3D355.75105406133!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOS4yIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

[iDesign]

2 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

The Chrysalidocarpus probably wasn't removed just for removing it, the 2011 freeze probably killed it...

That actually makes me feel a little less sad... since I couldn't imagine anyone in their right mind deliberately removing a palm that pretty.  Also just noticed these awesome piñata kids (added a blur since they're minors... though they seem very happy to be filmed).

Life was apparently more tropical AND more fun in 2009, based on this photo set.  🎉 🌴