TOP 10 Most Popular Hardy Palms (THE LIST)

[CascadiaPalms]

Okay, I actually did extensive research into this....I think I have nailed it, but it seems like there is always someone who has a completely different experience.  Anywho, this is my list.  This are just the main players...aka the most popular palms.

 

[ZPalms]

Is this list just survivability? because a few of these temperatures and the palm will look like toast most of the time.

[Dwarf Fan]

Can you just post the list I am not logging into YT to watch a video thanks.

Let me guess:

Sabal minor ‘McCurtain’ 

Rhapidophyllum hystrix

Sabal brazoriensis

Sabal birmingham

Nannorrhops ritchiana

Trachycarpus fortunei 

And maybe:

Med Fan

Phoenix canariensis

Jubaea

Butia

[Dwarf Fan]

Just watched not bad for a newbie you got the more common palms that are readily available. However…

California Fan Palm is NOT a “Cold Hardy” palm it should not be on the list…

Bizmarkia is also NOT bulletproof many. died here in Palmageddon’21 it should NOT be on the list either, NO away it is a top 10 contender.

Seriously NO Sabal minor on your list… 🫣

Sabal brazoriensis, Sabal birmingham & Sabal ‘Defuniak Springs’ are all more Cold Hardy than the standard Sabal palmetto FYI.

Seriously you should add Nannorrhops ritchiana it is way more cold Hardy than several on your video.

Welcome to Palm Talk.

[Harry’s Palms]

Nicely done! Fun to watch and common names makes it watchable for those that are not palm geeks , although some of us nerds prefer twisting our mouth to say the botanical names. I’m sure that took some effort to put together , welcome! Harry

[CascadiaPalms]

3 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

Just watched not bad for a newbie you got the more common palms that are readily available. However…

California Fan Palm is NOT a “Cold Hardy” palm it should not be on the list…

Bizmarkia is also NOT bulletproof many. died here in Palmageddon’21 it should NOT be on the list either, NO away it is a top 10 contender.

Seriously NO Sabal minor on your list… 🫣

Sabal brazoriensis, Sabal birmingham & Sabal ‘Defuniak Springs’ are all more Cold Hardy than the standard Sabal palmetto FYI.

Seriously you should add Nannorrhops ritchiana it is way more cold Hardy than several on your video.

Welcome to Palm Talk.

Haha thank you 😊 

you are definitely not wrong.

Yes, the Bismarck had some conflicting information after reading several reports that’s what I came up with but I definitely hear what you are saying.

[Dwarf Fan]

Great video, you are already more knowledgeable than many “experts” out there that are not on Palm Talk.

I like how you kept it short and to the point.

Trade out the Bizy for Sabal minor would be my biggest critique, realistically most people don’t have access to a N. ritchiana, so it would cover all the palms that most people should be able to find or order at a local nursery.

[Fusca]

8 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

California Fan Palm is NOT a “Cold Hardy” palm it should not be on the list…

🫣

Did you really mean that about Washingtonia filifera?  It's much cold hardier than W. robusta (Mexican Fan Palm).  I agree with the other statements - adding Livistona chinensis (Chinese Fan Palm) to Nannorrhops richiana (Mazari Palm) and Sabal minor (Dwarf Fan Palm) although I don't know how "popular" Nannorrhops is.  

@CascadiaPalms does popular mean well-liked or widely planted?  I assume "hardy" means cold hardy.  Bismarckia is extremely popular (well-liked and widely planted in some areas) and somewhat cold hardy (similar to a Queen Palm) but not as cold hardy as several others.

[Dwarf Fan]

34 minutes ago, Fusca said:

Did you really mean that about Washingtonia filifera?  It's much cold hardier than W. robusta (Mexican Fan Palm).  I agree with the other statements - adding Livistona chinensis (Chinese Fan Palm) to Nannorrhops richiana (Mazari Palm) and Sabal minor (Dwarf Fan Palm) although I don't know how "popular" Nannorrhops is.  

@CascadiaPalms does popular mean well-liked or widely planted?  I assume "hardy" means cold hardy.  Bismarckia is extremely popular (well-liked and widely planted in some areas) and somewhat cold hardy (similar to a Queen Palm) but not as cold hardy as several others.

If you can get a PURE Filifera sure but good luck the vast majority of everything I see in Texas is some type of Filibusta mutt with a FEW pure W. Robusta and a few (mostly?) pureish W. Filiferas scatted here and there.

I was under the impression it is not easy to get a PURE Filifera in most states outside of Southern California.

Most Nursery people I have spoken with just toss around the Mexican or California Fan palm name willy nilly with no consideration if the Palm is actually a Robusta or Filifera or a Hybrid.

I haven’t even heard the term “Filibusta” used outside of Palm Talk. Most people know next to nothing about Palms outside of this forum in my experience.

[Fusca]

1 hour ago, Dwarf Fan said:

If you can get a PURE Filifera sure but good luck the vast majority of everything I see in Texas is some type of Filibusta mutt with a FEW pure W. Robusta and a few (mostly?) pureish W. Filiferas scatted here and there.

I was under the impression it is not easy to get a PURE Filifera in most states outside of Southern California.

Most Nursery people I have spoken with just toss around the Mexican or California Fan palm name willy nilly with no consideration if the Palm is actually a Robusta or Filifera or a Hybrid.

I haven’t even heard the term “Filibusta” used outside of Palm Talk. Most people know next to nothing about Palms outside of this forum in my experience.

Yes, exactly, I agree with all of this.  My question was about why you said that filifera aren't cold hardy.  Maybe it shouldn't be on his list because of lack of availability (not popular) but it's certainly cold hardy.  More cold hardy than filibusta and robusta.  That's why I asked the original poster about what he meant by "popular".  Based on what we saw with Palmageddon I would think that filifera are popular in the sense that many in north and central Texas would prefer to plant them vs. robusta or filibusta but pure filifera aren't easy to find.

[CascadiaPalms]

16 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Is this list just survivability? because a few of these temperatures and the palm will look like toast most of the time.

Definitely survivability.  IMO, this is the litmus test "last stance" level to where these specific palms can survive or not.

10 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Nicely done! Fun to watch and common names makes it watchable for those that are not palm geeks , although some of us nerds prefer twisting our mouth to say the botanical names. I’m sure that took some effort to put together , welcome! Harry

Thank you, I hope to post more top 10 videos in the coming days.  Building my channel to be truly and only palm specific in helping others with palm interest/knowledge.

7 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

Great video, you are already more knowledgeable than many “experts” out there that are not on Palm Talk.

I like how you kept it short and to the point.

Trade out the Bizy for Sabal minor would be my biggest critique, realistically most people don’t have access to a N. ritchiana, so it would cover all the palms that most people should be able to find or order at a local nursery.

Are you referring to this video, or did you watch any other videos?  Appreciate the feedback and yes, I like short and to the point videos.  Thank you again Dwarf Fan.  Cheers.

[CascadiaPalms]

2 hours ago, Fusca said:

Did you really mean that about Washingtonia filifera?  It's much cold hardier than W. robusta (Mexican Fan Palm).  I agree with the other statements - adding Livistona chinensis (Chinese Fan Palm) to Nannorrhops richiana (Mazari Palm) and Sabal minor (Dwarf Fan Palm) although I don't know how "popular" Nannorrhops is.  

@CascadiaPalms does popular mean well-liked or widely planted?  I assume "hardy" means cold hardy.  Bismarckia is extremely popular (well-liked and widely planted in some areas) and somewhat cold hardy (similar to a Queen Palm) but not as cold hardy as several others.

Great question.  The cold hardy list is obviously quite long.  If I went with that and that only...only #1, #2 #3 (roughly) on my list would remain.  I found many species that could survive down to 10F-15F.  So the basis for "popular" is widely planted and well-known.  Not so much desired per se.  Thank you for the question.

[Dwarf Fan]

1 hour ago, Fusca said:

Yes, exactly, I agree with all of this.  My question was about why you said that filifera aren't cold hardy.  Maybe it shouldn't be on his list because of lack of availability (not popular) but it's certainly cold hardy.  More cold hardy than filibusta and robusta.  That's why I asked the original poster about what he meant by "popular".  Based on what we saw with Palmageddon I would think that filifera are popular in the sense that many in north and central Texas would prefer to plant them vs. robusta or filibusta but pure filifera aren't easy to find.

Actually, I said:

 

11 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

California Fan Palm is NOT a “Cold Hardy” palm it should not be on the list…

To which I added this context:

2 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

If you can get a PURE Filifera sure but good luck the vast majority of everything I see in Texas is some type of Filibusta mutt with a FEW pure W. Robusta and a few (mostly?) pureish W. Filiferas scatted here and there.

I was under the impression it is not easy to get a PURE Filifera in most states outside of Southern California.

Most Nursery people I have spoken with just toss around the Mexican or California Fan palm name willy nilly with no consideration if the Palm is actually a Robusta or Filifera or a Hybrid.

I haven’t even heard the term “Filibusta” used outside of Palm Talk. Most people know next to nothing about Palms outside of this forum in my experience.

If I wasn’t clear IF you can get a PURE Filifera sure they are definitely Cold Hardy.

But the OP’s video never mentions “Filifera” it refers to “California Fan Palms” as Cold Hardy (heck he even has Mexican Fan Palms in his Top 10) I feel that this is a recipe for disaster and disappointment for the “normies” watching on YouTube.

Full disclosure I am originally from San Diego and the Filifera native habitat is located in a part of the county that gets much colder than the coastal zones where they are found next to pure Robustas. 

But even in San Diego it’s just a Mexican/California Fan palm to the general public.

Often derided by local Nurserymen as the “weed of Palm trees”.

I know and you know Jon, but some people are still gonna end up with “Telephone poles” in their yard after watching that YouTube vid. 😉

[Dwarf Fan]

1 hour ago, CascadiaPalms said:

Definitely survivability.  IMO, this is the litmus test "last stance" level to where these specific palms can survive or not.

Thank you, I hope to post more top 10 videos in the coming days.  Building my channel to be truly and only palm specific in helping others with palm interest/knowledge.

Are you referring to this video, or did you watch any other videos?  Appreciate the feedback and yes, I like short and to the point videos.  Thank you again Dwarf Fan.  Cheers.

I was referring to that video only. Yes I like the short duration and staying on topic and not meandering and getting off into the woods.

[CascadiaPalms]

1 hour ago, Dwarf Fan said:

Actually, I said:

 

To which I added this context:

If I wasn’t clear IF you can get a PURE Filifera sure they are definitely Cold Hardy.

But the OP’s video never mentions “Filifera” it refers to “California Fan Palms” as Cold Hardy (heck he even has Mexican Fan Palms in his Top 10) I feel that this is a recipe for disaster and disappointment for the “normies” watching on YouTube.

Full disclosure I am originally from San Diego and the Filifera native habitat is located in a part of the county that gets much colder than the coastal zones where they are found next to pure Robustas. 

But even in San Diego it’s just a Mexican/California Fan palm to the general public.

Often derided by local Nurserymen as the “weed of Palm trees”.

I know and you know Jon, but some people are still gonna end up with “Telephone poles” in their yard after watching that YouTube vid. 😉

Well… to be fair, compared to ALL palm species in the world, filifera and robusta ARE considered on the cold hardy end. It doesn’t mean they can ride out a blizzard outright.  But a palm tree is a generally tropical plant.  So being a cold hardy tropical plant doesn’t mean you’ll survive a winter in Minnesota, it just means you can survive parts of the temperate zone which is colder than the tropical zone.  Hence why the term “cold” can be subjective, it just depends on what you are comparing it to.

[jwitt]

Some of the palm temperatures seem off from what is known for lethality. 

CIDP for example. 20f

[CascadiaPalms]

2 hours ago, jwitt said:

Some of the palm temperatures seem off from what is known for lethality. 

CIDP for example. 20f

An earlier poster asked that same question, these are temperatures the palms could not survive below.