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Any success with Dypsis mirabilis in Southern California?

Kim

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Wondering if Dypsis mirabilis can survive and thrive in zone 10a San Diego coastal area -- any success to report out there?

Having finally dispensed with a way-too-giant bird of paradise in a much-too-tight spot, there is now space for a smallish palm or two. The location would provide dappled west sun through a couple of Howea forsteriana, part sun/part shade from south, would get a short period of morning sun from the east, limited by proximity to the house.

Howea belmoreana is also under consideration, but the crownshaft color and unique shape of the Dypsis mirabilis would be more attractive -- IF they would remain healthy.  I realize that's a big IF.  I suppose several Chamaedorea species would do well, but I'm not excited about them.

Please relate any relevant experience.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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I'm curious about this as well. 🤔

I was at Rancho Soledad a couple years ago and Jesse showed me some they had for sale (under the "Florencei" name) - with beautiful colors and fat unbroken leaves. I was sooooo tempted to buy a couple, but the price kept me back. My plan was to instead buy a few from Floribunda on my next order, and hope they grow to be as lovely.

Jesse said he had just planted several of them in his display garden, and I found them in a relatively sheltered area of the display garden (near a shed). He thought it was iffy whether they would survive in our area, but that he wanted to test them. This was before the relatively cold winter we had recently... so if those ones survived, then they are a "go".

I would love to go back to Rancho Soledad and check sometime, but that would be dangerous as I would undoubtedly come back with more plants. 🌴 🛒 

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Kim if you scroll through this thread you will see some I am growing in Vista CA.  

NOT perfect looking but overall nice.

 

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I killed all 3 of mine here which suggests to me that they need regular watering, planted 3 Maroantsetra same area, same size, same conditions, same time and those are thriving about 3 meters tall in 3 years.

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@TomJ Thanks for sharing your photos -- those look really good! I know Vista is considered a gifted area for palms and other sensitive plants, not so sure my spot will fare as well, but your experience is very encouraging! Funny, I did a search for the name and that excellent thread did not come up. Or I missed it. 😶‍🌫️

@iDesign Yes, tempting! I should take a trip to Rancho Soledad to see if the D. mirabilis/florencii are doing well. I am so totally spoiled by Hawaii palm prices, not sure I could swallow those RSN prices. Maybe in the future we could split a Floribunda order. 😉

Wow, @Brad52, that seems very unlucky for your location. I didn't realize it's so dry where you are. For sure whatever I plant will need some irrigation extended to the location, as this will be the San Diego garden, dry as a bone 8 months of the year.

Thanks to all for the comments and photos. Other suggestions for petite palms with color (nothing clustering) are welcome. I'll probably fill out underneath whatever I plant with bromeliads, maybe a few ti plants. Longing for a little color in the corner next to my front deck.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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@Kim for what it's worth, I'd try one where you are. Bet they'll do well near the coast, unless there's indications they need a lot of extra heat. @iDesign you should try some too for the same reason.

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6 hours ago, Kim said:

 

@iDesign Yes, tempting! I should take a trip to Rancho Soledad to see if the D. mirabilis/florencii are doing well. I am so totally spoiled by Hawaii palm prices, not sure I could swallow those RSN prices. Maybe in the future we could split a Floribunda order. 😉

I’m actually planning on doing a small Floribunda order in the Spring if you want to combine with me to save on shipping costs. Shockingly, this one is going to be pretty small (and yes, mirabilis was indeed on my wishlist). ✏️

For color, my go-to is bromeliads for low spots and Ti’s (or similar mid-heights like lemon-lime dracanea)… but I’ve tried a lot of others like small exotic hibiscus, alocasia, philodendrons and crotons (with mixed results).

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9 hours ago, iDesign said:

I’m actually planning on doing a small Floribunda order in the Spring if you want to combine with me to save on shipping costs. Shockingly, this one is going to be pretty small (and yes, mirabilis was indeed on my wishlist). ✏️

For color, my go-to is bromeliads for low spots and Ti’s (or similar mid-heights like lemon-lime dracanea)… but I’ve tried a lot of others like small exotic hibiscus, alocasia, philodendrons and crotons (with mixed results).

Don't be afraid to explore other plants, too including palms. The cool thing is that the really colorful palms seem to like higher humidity (anyone who disagrees is welcome to correct me so I can add to my semi-inland garden!) which is right near the ocean.

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On 11/27/2024 at 10:41 PM, iDesign said:

I’m actually planning on doing a small Floribunda order in the Spring if you want to combine with me to save on shipping costs. Shockingly, this one is going to be pretty small (and yes, mirabilis was indeed on my wishlist). ✏️

For color, my go-to is bromeliads for low spots and Ti’s (or similar mid-heights like lemon-lime dracanea)… but I’ve tried a lot of others like small exotic hibiscus, alocasia, philodendrons and crotons (with mixed results).

My order would probably be tiny, but do keep me in mind. 😎

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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On 11/28/2024 at 8:38 AM, DoomsDave said:

Don't be afraid to explore other plants, too including palms. The cool thing is that the really colorful palms seem to like higher humidity (anyone who disagrees is welcome to correct me so I can add to my semi-inland garden!) which is right near the ocean.

Dave , YES!! I have Tillandsias that put on quite a show every year with some having brilliant color . They can be attached to the leaf bases as well as a bamboo back drop. They also like humidity but they get that whenever I water the palms . Just splash them down . They multiply and after a few years you can have them everywhere! Harry

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