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Clinostigma or?

DoomsDave

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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That’s what the label said, but I think it might be a plain old Archontophoenix.

Whaddya think?

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Kim Grand Master

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Can't say for sure -- which Clinistigma is it supposed to be? if I could see the entire crown, maybe that would help. And of course an inflorescence.  I have learned that a species grown in California doesn't necessarily hold the same characteristics as the same species grown in Hawaii, so...?

In my attached photo are 2 C. samoense (warburghii). Note the color and shape of the trunk, the wavy leaf scars, the lax leaflets, long tall crownshaft, number of leaves held in the crown.  To my eye, they differ from your photos. But maybe the one you are showing is C. savoryanum? I'm not so familiar with that one. 

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peachy Grand Master

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No help here either Dave. I've never seen that colour crownshaft on an Archontophoenix and they are usually much longer than the one pictured. Also the leaf scars look too thin for an Archie.  I don't have room for a Clinostigma so haven't done much research on them although I did manage to murder a couple of them at the old place.

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tim_brissy_13 Grand Master

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Looks like Archontophoenix to me Dave. One of the silver abaxial leaflet surface ones without ramenta (not cunninghamiana or purpurea). 

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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I think it’s an Archontophoenix too.

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It’s this one 

 

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Not right for C Savoryanum ( leaf scars all wrong and no petiole) but a really beautiful palm. Thanks for sharing.

happypalms Grand Master

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We Ozzie’s are pretty familiar with archontophoenix sp Alexander @DoomsDave we got them growing like weeds dime a dozen actually make the a dime for three dozen. 

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Matt in OC Grand Master

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A. Myolensis?

James B Veteran

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It does appear to be Archontophoenix. Clinostigma will have waxy leaflets and crownshaft. In mature species the leaflets have a tendency to droop down similar to C. Leptocheilios.

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Tracy Grand Master

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On 12/1/2024 at 1:39 PM, DoomsDave said:

Whaddya think?

I have to agree with others that it isn't a Clinostigma and is probably a type of Archontophoenix, Dave.  Just for comparison, here is a California (Carlsbad) grown Clinostigma savoryanum that has been in the ground for about 15 or 16 years.  I don't recall the size of the container when I planted it, but it was just transitioning from some entire leaves to split leaves when I planted it.

You can compare speed of growth on yours, which I'll bet without knowing ahead of time that it has grown with the speed of most Archontophoenix in Southern California.  I know that Clinostigma are rockets in Hawaii, but like many other things, don't behave the same here in California.  I don't know how these do further inland in California, but guess that while they would appreciate the higher temperatures, would loathe the much stronger Santa Ana winds and dry conditions further inland.  Speculation on my part, but I'll let others with experience growing them or attempting to grow them confirm if my speculation is accurate or full of B.....image.jpeg.376a288bddb042b8ab77703321d6a461.jpeg

Yup... that is Bologna, Italy.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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It’s a beautiful palm Dave, my half cocked guess is A.Maxima or Myolensis.

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