Rats strike again

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This time a house mouse and a female rat getting stuck into some seedlings. Giving the chamaedorea ernsest augustii and some reinhardtia gracilis, Areca red form and even a tree seedling cursed things. I can live  with what they are a living animal on the planet gods creatures. But for gods sake not imported seeds my words  are polite on this subject I dont know why it’s hard enough to import seeds  then have some critter eat them omg. I guess there’s no point in crying over spilled milk they say why raise the strees levels when it’s happened it is what it is. Does palm talk have a counselling service because if it did it would be booked out with clients seeking counseling on how many rats  have been into your seedlings today it could be called rats  anonymouse group therapy sessions. Just keep on trapping them these ones will go for a drive down the road and be released iam just to green to kill an animal I can’t do that not even to a palm growers enemy.

[Nico971]

“Hi my name is Nico ! and I have rats to…”

 

 

[Harry’s Palms]

My neighbor just trapped a large one and he has two cats! I have cats as well. I have suffered loss too. I rarely see them but I know they are there. They like seedlings but they haven’t touched certain varieties. Harry

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And another 3 overnight all humanly released at work they like eating plants let’s see how they go on blueberry raspberry diet bet they don’t last long on that after eating such finely imported exspensive palms, living the high life on imported food such luxury. 

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13 hours ago, Nico971 said:

“Hi my name is Nico ! and I have rats to…”

 

 

Hi Nico nice to meet you I have less palms due to rats now. 

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8 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

My neighbor just trapped a large one and he has two cats! I have cats as well. I have suffered loss too. I rarely see them but I know they are there. They like seedlings but they haven’t touched certain varieties. Harry

That’s the go Harry a cat every now and then my cat brings one inside for me with the wife screaming on chair like some 60s sitcom. 

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Hang on a minute aren’t the mice running the planet according to the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy (Douglas Adam’s) 🤣

[Jeff zone 8 N.C.]

I feel your pain from experience. Pretty sure if you release them, even far away, they will use their homing instinct and be back. I do not have personal experience with rats and mice doing that with me but my brother caught a nuisance squirrel, painted his tail orange, took him a couple miles away into dense woods and released him. Next day he was back. See the link about a black bear traveling over 1000 miles to get back home.

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/environment/a-relocated-bear-walked-1000-miles-back-to-its-favorite-campsite/

[Tyrone]

Ah man that’s so rotten when that happens. I can totally empathise with you. Back in Perth I had university trained rats that would avoid every form of capture. I got them in the end, but you wouldn’t like how I did it. I had some Dictyocaryum lamarckianum seedlings that I was trying to grow and one night those psychopaths just chopped every single one except for one down at the base. Didn’t eat them just decapitated them. Perfectly fine common stuff right next to them they could just smash through but no, just the ultra rare stuff. The one last Dictyocaryum died after a 42C day so that was the end of that. 
 

I wondered how they knew certain stuff was rare and went for that. I had a good think about it then I realised. The rare stuff I used to pick up and have a close look at etc etc. the common stuff I never really touched. I must have left human scent on the pot and to a rat, human scent equals food. Now I grow ultra rare stuff in vermin proof cages. 
 

You could get a python that you need to feed. That way you aren’t the one killing them and you’ll have a happy python. 

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2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Ah man that’s so rotten when that happens. I can totally empathise with you. Back in Perth I had university trained rats that would avoid every form of capture. I got them in the end, but you wouldn’t like how I did it. I had some Dictyocaryum lamarckianum seedlings that I was trying to grow and one night those psychopaths just chopped every single one except for one down at the base. Didn’t eat them just decapitated them. Perfectly fine common stuff right next to them they could just smash through but no, just the ultra rare stuff. The one last Dictyocaryum died after a 42C day so that was the end of that. 
 

I wondered how they knew certain stuff was rare and went for that. I had a good think about it then I realised. The rare stuff I used to pick up and have a close look at etc etc. the common stuff I never really touched. I must have left human scent on the pot and to a rat, human scent equals food. Now I grow ultra rare stuff in vermin proof cages. 
 

You could get a python that you need to feed. That way you aren’t the one killing them and you’ll have a happy python. 

Yep they got 5 dypsis brevicaulis as well. 
Good observation about the smell meaning food. I wonder what would Happen if I  rub the cat all over the seedlings. And as for the python I get 3or 4 of them every year wondering around my house the cat lives in fear I know when there out there the cat comes in freaked out saying holy heck get me away from them. And sorry about your little palms aiam arranging a group therapy session with a zoom meeting via the net for those interested 😂

[Tyrone]

22 hours ago, happypalms said:

Yep they got 5 dypsis brevicaulis as well. 
Good observation about the smell meaning food. I wonder what would Happen if I  rub the cat all over the seedlings. And as for the python I get 3or 4 of them every year wondering around my house the cat lives in fear I know when there out there the cat comes in freaked out saying holy heck get me away from them. And sorry about your little palms aiam arranging a group therapy session with a zoom meeting via the net for those interested 😂

At least you get pythons. All I get is tiger snakes. I had one at my front door on Wednesday night looking for frogs to eat. We’ve got thousands of new baby tree frogs around the place. Too close for comfort being extremely venomous. I cleaned up the entrance and patio so you don’t accidentally tread on one. I’d have a few pythons any day. 

[SHEP]

Rats... I have no moral qualms about exterminating this species.  They are invasive, and devastate our crops.  Where would we be in the world, if our major crop growers had moral qualms about this?  It is competition and economics.  For those who aren't hunter/gatherers like myself and most humans,  it is survival of the fittest.  We all benefit from pesticides, and yes animals that can hurt us...ie plague as in the past.

I think the problem is that some people equate mammals as a species to be protective.  But, what about dogs that attack humans, exterminate.  I spray insecticides to protect my fruit , in the past have individually wrapped my apricots and Fay Elberta peaches - it is war! But, I have discovered this new trap that works effectively for squirrels, my competitor for food.  Look these up UTube.   They are oversized tubes that need to be mounted on a base.  Expensive if you have a lot of property, but work effectively, currently about $60 US, we paid more but they were new on market.  You have to clean up the mess, but worth it to protect our plant's survival.  I know we are protecting our plants, but what if the predators were after our pets, would we even hesitate.....

But, I would shoot every one with a pellet gun that takes my fruit, and rare palms that I coddle,  you betcha.  It's war.  I hate rats!  Cecile

 

[Darold Petty]

Cecile, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel !

(death to rats !)   

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4 hours ago, Tyrone said:

At least you get pythons. All I get is tiger snakes. I had one at my front door on Wednesday night looking for frogs to eat. We’ve got thousands of new baby tree frogs around the place. Too close for comfort being extremely venomous. I cleaned up the entrance and patio so you don’t accidentally tread on one. I’d have a few pythons any day. 

You can keep your tiger snakes I thought browns were deadly enough. So far  I’ve only been bitten once but the morning I stepped on the black snake at my front door I did jump a bit. At least you don’t have the cane toads there slowly encroaching on the Clarence valley wiping out a lot of animals along the way. Pythons are easy but I get the odd clever one hanging at the door waiting for the cat.

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1 hour ago, SHEP said:

Rats... I have no moral qualms about exterminating this species.  They are invasive, and devastate our crops.  Where would we be in the world, if our major crop growers had moral qualms about this?  It is competition and economics.  For those who aren't hunter/gatherers like myself and most humans,  it is survival of the fittest.  We all benefit from pesticides, and yes animals that can hurt us...ie plague as in the past.

I think the problem is that some people equate mammals as a species to be protective.  But, what about dogs that attack humans, exterminate.  I spray insecticides to protect my fruit , in the past have individually wrapped my apricots and Fay Elberta peaches - it is war! But, I have discovered this new trap that works effectively for squirrels, my competitor for food.  Look these up UTube.   They are oversized tubes that need to be mounted on a base.  Expensive if you have a lot of property, but work effectively, currently about $60 US, we paid more but they were new on market.  You have to clean up the mess, but worth it to protect our plant's survival.  I know we are protecting our plants, but what if the predators were after our pets, would we even hesitate.....

But, I would shoot every one with a pellet gun that takes my fruit, and rare palms that I coddle,  you betcha.  It's war.  I hate rats!  Cecile

 

I used to exterminate any pest I just softened up as I aged. I don’t even like to cut trees down now. I feel the same way towards feral invasive pest kill them all. But by all means when it comes to protecting our crops for sure I work on a 200 acre fruit orchard and I know what insect pests and birds can do to a crop basically they will send you broke.