what kind of chamaedorea is this

[Mazat]

found in october 2024 beside a container near s little Lake in st. gallen.

then outplanted in shadow on balcony.

the leaves were first damaged 

What kind of chamaedorea is this?

[happypalms]

Photo please. But as far as I can see it’s the invisible chameadorea. Aha I see said the blind man who could not see.

[Mazat]

[Mazat]

[Mazat]

18 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Photo please. But as far as I can see it’s the invisible chameadorea. Aha I see said the blind man who could not see.

😁

[FilthyFiveHole]

More than likely it's Chamaedorea elegans

[idontknowhatnametuse]

elegans

[Janni]

Most probably c. radicalis if it is planted outside. I have 4 of them in my garden.
C. radicalis is the only Chamaedorea which can survive in longterm here. 

[FilthyFiveHole]

Too small for radicalis, I have a bunch of them different sizes seedlings to mature. My 2 leaf strap seedlings are bigger than that

[Janni]

It would surprise me absolutely if that is a C. Elegans and still maintains its green leafes. As far as Tom wrote it grows in a container outside on his balcony.
Our winters here are not particularly strong but we have weeks when the temperatures don‘t go above zero or 1, maybe 2 C. The low values are around -1 to -3 C during those foggy weeks, sometimes lower. 

I don‘t think a C. Elegans could handle that. Except if Tom‘s house is loosing an unusual amount of heat. That would be favourable for the little plant and very unfortunate for Tom‘s checking account…

[Mazat]

15 cm / 1.968 in high.

here two other pictures.

 

[Mazat]

we have sunshine from morning to evening in good weather, but often fog in the winter months, but since we are about 15-20 minutes away (on foot) we have less fog than Arbon town itself. we are with the community garden and balcony parallel to the sun in principle in front.
In addition, we sometimes have 3 degrees Celsius more with simultaneous measurement downstairs at a ventilated weather station than weather stations (Davis etc.) in the immediate vicinity. the maximum temperatures are higher, but the minimum temperatures are not or similar

 

[Mazat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind

we have often this kind of warm wind.

 

[Mazat]

6 hours ago, Janni said:

It would surprise me absolutely if that is a C. Elegans and still maintains its green leafes. As far as Tom wrote it grows in a container outside on his balcony.
Our winters here are not particularly strong but we have weeks when the temperatures don‘t go above zero or 1, maybe 2 C. The low values are around -1 to -3 C during those foggy weeks, sometimes lower. 

I don‘t think a C. Elegans could handle that. Except if Tom‘s house is loosing an unusual amount of heat. That would be favourable for the little plant and very unfortunate for Tom‘s checking account…

hello Janni

you live in Constance near lake, yes?

i ask because your Garden ist then in usda Zone 8b, right.

we are in usda Zone 8a slowly going to 8b direction. Arbon is near lake 8b.

 

[FilthyFiveHole]

First picture is elegans, second is radicalis. Radicalis do not have pinnate leaves at 2 inches tall. Their first strap leaf is usually bigger than that. 100% elegans

[Mazat]

49 minutes ago, FilthyFiveHole said:

First picture is elegans, second is radicalis. Radicalis do not have pinnate leaves at 2 inches tall. Their first strap leaf is usually bigger than that. 100% elegans

your chamaedorea is 👍.

yes, what a surprise it looks really like elegans

in this usda Zone 8s/8b here ...