Make a guess!

[Phoenikakias]

This is an old Chamaerops in a public garden. What do you expect to see in the ground under the crown?

[Phoenikakias]

This is an old Chamaerops in a public garden. What do you expect to see in the ground under the crown?

[Kim]

? Hundreds of seedlings?

[Phoenikakias]

1 hour ago, Kim said:

? Hundreds of seedlings?

Seedlings of course but of what?

[Kim]

Well, the Chamaerops, I'd have thought. But now you have me wondering. 🤔

[Phoenikakias]

 

9 minutes ago, Kim said:

Well, the Chamaerops, I'd have thought. But now you have me wondering. 🤔

Lol I just wanted to showcase what an invasive sp should look like even in the controlled environment of a public park. Of course one would expect to see a layer of Chamaerops seedlings, instead in reality there is a carpet of naturally sprouted Livistona chinensis young plant in various stages of growth!

[Fusca]

Ha!  I was going to guess Washingtonia volunteers!

[happypalms]

I see a lot of work in removing them 😂

[Mishaq]

Is that the mythical single trunked form?

 

My guess is sabal minor

[Mishaq]

Is that the mythical single trunked form of chamaerops? The fronds are almost washingtonia like

[Las Palmas Norte]

1 hour ago, Mishaq said:

Is that the mythical single trunked form of chamaerops? The fronds are almost washingtonia like

That's because its not Chamaerops but Livistona, just like the seedlings underneath it.

[Las Palmas Norte]

Make a Guess

[Harry’s Palms]

I have a large Chamaerops that I planted about 25 years ago as a very small seedling . It grew straight up and never developed any pups , just a single straight trunk. Harry

[Phoenikakias]

5 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

That's because its not Chamaerops but Livistona, just like the seedlings underneath it.

Trust me, it is a Chamaerops, a centennial one.

[Phoenikakias]

7 hours ago, Mishaq said:

Is that the mythical single trunked form of chamaerops? The fronds are almost washingtonia like

Not mythical at all! I have come across few. I am not sure however if this particular plant is/had always been solitary. It is a very old specimen from the beginnings of 20th century or even older. In old specimens caespitose habit is usually weak or disappears. Mythical on the other hand should be a totally thornless Chamaerops.

[Phoenikakias]

11 hours ago, happypalms said:

I see a lot of work in removing them 😂

Even strap leaf seedlings are deeply and firmly anchored in the soil, especially when latter consists of clay and rocks. It occurred to me many times, that seedlings resprouted again after I had pulled out eophyll. This sp and Washingtonia!

[Mishaq]

4 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Not mythical at all! I have come across few. I am not sure however if this particular plant is/had always been solitary. It is a very old specimen from the beginnings of 20th century or even older. In old specimens caespitose habit is usually weak or disappears. Mythical on the other hand should be a totally thornless Chamaerops.

I've seen some *mostly* thornless volcanos 

 

Why do older specimens stop suckering. Surely they still keep the suckers they once had, therefore this specimen must've always been solitary?

 

[Phoenikakias]

Apart from volcano forms, that is. In first line I had in mind a solitary specimen, totally unarmed. Suckers can be removed. I have one such specimen, which produced only one offshoot in very young age, this offshoot was removed and it has remained since then strictly solitary. On the other hand another supper fast specimen was actually  the only sucker of a dead main stem, and itself sucker's like crazy, I butcher with reciprocal saw all offshoots during spring and by next spring ground is again full of offshoots, maybe even more than the time before last trim. Both specimens are roughly same age. Ya never know with this sp!

[happypalms]

5 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Even strap leaf seedlings are deeply and firmly anchored in the soil, especially when latter consists of clay and rocks. It occurred to me many times, that seedlings resprouted again after I had pulled out eophyll. This sp and Washingtonia!

I guess the good old herbicides will save the day in this case. 😃

[Harry’s Palms]

This is my solitary Chamaerops grown from a 1 gallon seedling . Planted over 25 years ago and never developed any pups. Harry

[Phoenikakias]

1 hour ago, Harry’s Palms said:

This is my solitary Chamaerops grown from a 1 gallon seedling . Planted over 25 years ago and never developed any pups. Harry

This belongs clearly to 2 group!

[Jonathan]

3 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

This is my solitary Chamaerops grown from a 1 gallon seedling . Planted over 25 years ago and never developed any pups. Harry

Is that you under the palm Harry?